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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: French nuclear industry squabble-fest Reply with quote

Major spat between EDF and Areva - both of whom are key players in the UK nuclear power programme.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article6992750.ece
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heaven help us should Boreas, Notus, Eurus, and Zephyrus ever start squalling!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The dispute comes amid tense relations between Mrs Lauvergeon and Henri Proglio,
could be a good plot for a soap opera, lots of dining-out scenes and tastefully-over-decorated bedrooms... It'd be popular with Brits who dream about going to live in France but are still glad they decided not to Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know anything about a traffic blockade in Flamanville France in respect of local infrastructure issues with EDF.

I have been advised there were at least two protests and were reported local press. I've tried looking, but to no avail. My French by the way is as good Del Boy's, so if I did stumble upon anything, I could only look at pictures.

There must be some complaints somewhere regards the building of the new Nuclear Power Station, but I cannot find a thing.

Any links would be appreciated

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The French usually manage to set compensation levels near high profile projects at a level where very few locals complain. Perhaps our idiot civil servants could learn a thing or two instead of paying our legion of useless legal beagles a fortune for endless inquiries.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The French usually manage to set compensation levels near high profile projects at a level where very few locals complain. Perhaps our idiot civil servants could learn a thing or two instead of paying our legion of useless legal beagles a fortune for endless inquiries.


Yes I know. Think of Sollum Voe in the Shetlands B.P. paid £81-billion from 1976 to 2000. Bet they would like some of it back now. Closed community being an Island, but there ought to be something similar for our area.

Back to on-topic. It seems there were such protests & recorded in the issues of La Manche Libre & Ouest-France. Both have translated home web pages, but all subsequent pages are in French as with the rest of the web sites, and me being a "Little Englander" cannot make sense of any of it.

Hoping someone out there can point me in the right direction.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes I know. Think of Sollum Voe in the Shetlands B.P. paid £81-billion from 1976 to 2000. Bet they would like some of it back now. Closed community being an Island, but there ought to be something similar for our area.


Cannington has recently had a cob oven built for it by me in your community garden, Alex. Doesn't compete with £81 billion, I know, but you're part of a very select community there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cannington has recently had a cob oven built for it by me in your community garden, Alex. Doesn't compete with £81 billion, I know, but you're part of a very select community there.


Wasn't donated by EDF though.

What a small world! Did you actually come to the village and get involved with the installation? If so, you would have been overlooking some fields right in front of where the build took place. This area has been destignated by EDF to house accommodation blocks for 200 workers, park-and-ride for 900 cars, and a freight transfer facility operating 24/7. It will look like an airport car park.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What a small world! Did you actually come to the village and get involved with the installation? If so, you would have been overlooking some fields right in front of where the build took place. This area has been destignated by EDF to house accommodation blocks for 200 workers, park-and-ride for 900 cars, and a freight transfer facility operating 24/7. It will look like an airport car park.

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You have some of my clay soil there in that oven.

You're right! If they build on that bit of land it won't do the village any good at all. I bet all the publicans can't wait though. It'll make them a fortune - for a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See the marked area "Can A" This is an image of the proposed site for 200 bed hostel for construction workers for a minimum of 8 years, 900 car park-and-ride as well as a freight transfer facility 24/7 Can C & Can D are additional hostel sites, making the numbers up to 320 workers.

The Green road arcing round to the left & Yellow to the right are the choice thay have proposed regards a by pass for the village. Not a lot of point when they swamp us with the workforce!

The community garden as mentioned is just above the wording for Denmans Farm



Just imagine what that will do to our village. Disproportionate or what.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody hell. And how do all the vehicles get to Cannington? The A39 passes through Bridgwater, on it's way to the M5, the traffic is pretty chaotic already, and it's not an ideal road for heavy vehicles. Glad I'm safely in West Wales now!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bloody hell. And how do all the vehicles get to Cannington? The A39 passes through Bridgwater, on it's way to the M5, the traffic is pretty chaotic already, and it's not an ideal road for heavy vehicles. Glad I'm safely in West Wales now!


You have summed it up.

There were roadworks for 3 months with 4 way traffic lights by the roundabout with the junction of the Northern Disrtributor Rd. Chaos. Then there were another lot just out the 40 limit for 2 weeks, more Chaos, now we have a third lot on the same road, Chaos turned into Nightmare.

The A39 Bridgwater to Minehead is in the top ten of most challenging/dangerous roads in the country, and is a designated red route. There have been several fatalities, and when that happens the road is closed for hours pending investigation, and there is No alternative route. On a good day you can get from Birmingham to Bridgwater quicker than it takes to do the 21 miles on to Minehead.

So looking at the park-and-ride, 900 vehicles, times 3 shifts, that equates to 2,700 cars a day added to that road. Then factor in the heavy (and I mean really heavy) plant and low loaders that will add to it all. Plus of course the buses they intend to use to ferry in workers from other hostel areas they have planned for J-23 & J-24 off the M5.

The Barnes report of 1989 suggested a road straight from Dunball J-23 M5 to the build site. EDF have vetoed the idea.

The area in the map, known as Can A, EDF have already carried out trial digging, and the whole thing is still awaiting approval by the IPC. Rumour has it they intend to start on a jetty 500m out to sea 7th June, and they have not even applied for planning permission.

It looks like this being a French company are taking over where Napoleon failed.

Perhaps I ought to develop this in the Hinkley Point thread.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a bit of French action is required: a few burning barricades and buses should waken them up a bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal wrote:
Sounds like a bit of French action is required: a few burning barricades and buses should waken them up a bit.


You mean the revolting French!

Hence my original post where I was hoping to find something regards a Traffic Blockade in Flamanville. It did happen, and was reported in Marche Libre but I cannot find any web based evidence.

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