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Aurora

Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 5705 Location: West of England
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: HyDro Power: Turning Toilet Wastewater Into Electricity |
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| Quote: | Big Think - 23/07/10
The average person flushes more than 7,000 liters of water down the toilet every year. With more than half of the world's population using flushable toilets, this amounts to trillions of liters of water per year practically wasted. British industrial design student Tom Broadbent is hoping to change this with HyDro Power – an innovative system that transforms wastewater into electricity.
The device works by using the discarded water from household appliances like toilets, sinks and showers, which hits four turbine blades as it falls down the pipes, powering a generator.
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adam2
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2241 Location: London UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Most unlikely to be viable.
Flowing or falling water does indeed contain potential energy which could be captured by a suitable turbine and used to generate electricity.
The volumes are however limited as are the heights involved, the flow rate is also variable, and is zero most of the time.
Blocked drains are a reccuring problem in many premises and anything that restricts or slows the flow of waste water will add to the problems.
I would be very suprised indeed if the year round average power production would exceed one watt, for a household. An average of one watt would be worth about £10 a year.
And how much would these devices cost to install ? and clean and unblock.
And for what could this be used ? perhaps charging a few AA cells, it certainly could not be grid tied since apart from the capital cost, the losses in the grid tie inverter would exceed the output.
Sounds the sort of thing the government could spend a few million on researching ! _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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Ted
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 79 Location: Carmarthenshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
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To be fair the article does say that the device is designed for high-rise buildings so head isn't an issue.
But using grey water to power a bladed turbine doesn't sound like a good idea. Perhaps this will really be when the Sh!t hits the fan. |
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RenewableCandy

Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 6211 Location: York
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Ted wrote: | | Perhaps this will really be when the Sh!t hits the fan. |
Arrrrggh! Genius!! _________________ Soyez réaliste. Demandez l’impossible.
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 3171 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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RenewableCandy

Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 6211 Location: York
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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erm just realised: sorry to be a pedant but technically if it comes from the bog it's blackwater. (As in, the Usonian private army). _________________ Soyez réaliste. Demandez l’impossible.
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Adam1

Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 2660 Location: SW England
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't want to be on the hydro maintenance detail! _________________ Albert Bartlett | "One must have one's delusions to live. If you look at life too honestly and too clearly life does become unbearable because it's a pretty grim enterprise," Woody Allen, May 2010 |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 3171 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| RenewableCandy wrote: | | erm just realised: sorry to be a pedant but technically if it comes from the bog it's blackwater. (As in, the Usonian private army). |
They've renamed themselves Xe Services. If they can do it, there's no reason why the smelly stuff couldn't be given a lovely cuddly new name! Anyway, it's brown rather than black. I know cos I regularly empty the contents of my van loo into my septic tank . _________________ John
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RenewableCandy

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JohnB

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