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JohnB



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: South West Eco-Village/Co-housing Group Reply with quote

Oobers, and others, have reported on our group before, but I'm putting this everywhere I can think of at the moment:

In February 2006, around two dozen people held a three day ?get-together? to discuss setting up an eco-village in or near North Devon. We shared a group of holiday cottages, spending the days in intense discussion developing a common vision and planning the next steps, and the evenings socialising and getting to know each other. Few of us had met before, and it was amazing how well we got on, and made new friendships so quickly. With the aim of buying a site to set up a cohousing based community of up to 20 households, many of the group visited a possible location on the last day. Further meetings were planned, and everyone left with a strong belief that we had started something that would be a big step forward in sustainable living in the south west. We have since met on a number of occasions and looked at a number of potential sites in Devon, Dorset and Cornwall.

We have created a formal society called SWESES (South West England Sustainable Enterprise Society) that is actively searching for a suitable site, and we hope to make an offer on one by Christmas 2006

SWESES currently has members who have sold houses and have substantial savings, and members with little or no money, and we are working on a structure for the community that is fair to everyone.

You can read more about SWESES and how you can join us in this exciting venture at www.devoneva.org.uk.

We are meeting to draw up a shortlist of sites for our new community, work on the structure of the community and socialise next weekend (6th-8th October). Most of the meeting is for SWESES members only, but potential members are welcome on the Sunday afternoon. See our web site for more details.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Info on this project can now be found at www.trelay.org
A new newsletter due soon.

Good to hear from some of you that were involved in the process of developing such a project last year.

Bandidoz - One of my favourite things to do here is to walk along the stream through our woodland and our neighbours, down to the sea at Millook. I've not seen anyone kayak fishing there. Seen that at Crackington beach though. We took a fishing boat out of Boscastle in the summer. It cost quite a bit per person but we caught lots of fish for the freezer which we have only just finished. Main benefit was learning about what tackle etc to use for different fish.

Tess - I am finding the cost of living here to be really very low so I don't have to earn very much. I lived in a lovely yurt during the summer while I rented out some of our cottages for holiday makers and now the plan is to buy a few more yurts to rent out for holidays next summer. I think they are a great way to introduce people to simple, low energy living.

Another London narrowboat owner contacted me to see if there was somewhere at Trelay he could moor his boat. There is hardly room for a duck on our stream! We are planning a small lake so perhaps it could go on that.

One of the interesting things about how we have developed so far is the differing levels of acceptance of PO among our 11 residents. A few of us are 'fully PO'd' and pushing for lots of projects that reflect potential future PO related problems. Others have become PO aware since they joined us but swing between acceptance and bury head in sand. Others seem to totally reject the idea that PO will be a problem at all. A few more don't seem to hear the message at all. For me it means that the hardest thing about living here is my relationships with others, accepting and tolerating their actions and views and knowing how much to push mine. We have 4 new residents joining us next year who are more up to speed with PO so it will be interesting to see how that alters the dynamics.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oobers wrote:
One of the interesting things about how we have developed so far is the differing levels of acceptance of PO among our 11 residents.

Do you think it would have been better to form a community from people who are all PO aware, or based on some other big issue? I know the group who moved to Trelay selected themselves, and have a wide variety of reasons for being there. Should the next community have certain aims such as "preparing to survive PO and climate change"?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oobers wrote:

Tess - I am finding the cost of living here to be really very low so I don't have to earn very much. I lived in a lovely yurt during the summer while I rented out some of our cottages for holiday makers and now the plan is to buy a few more yurts to rent out for holidays next summer. I think they are a great way to introduce people to simple, low energy living.


Yurts are lovely, and actually very spacious when you're used to living in a 50' by 6' metal tube Smile

Is trelay much better endowed for living space than the place I came to visit? The problem I foresaw back then was the seeming reluctance of many leading residents to have any businesses being run onsite. How have you resolved that issue in order that you can, say, run an eco-hostelry using resources part or wholly owned by others? Do you profit-share? My struggle remains as ever how to earn my keep in the short-term while i reskill for something more rural and suitable for a homestead. Maybe ultimately i just have to trust to fate and use my savings until i figure out how to make it work. Or go off touring like JohnB!

The boat-on-the-lake idea sounds cool. No planning issues for boats... could stick a very comfortable off-grid houseboat or unpowered butty on a lake with moderate ease...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnB wrote:
oobers wrote:
One of the interesting things about how we have developed so far is the differing levels of acceptance of PO among our 11 residents.

Do you think it would have been better to form a community from people who are all PO aware, or based on some other big issue? I know the group who moved to Trelay selected themselves, and have a wide variety of reasons for being there. Should the next community have certain aims such as "preparing to survive PO and climate change"?


Remind me again why you decided not to settle down with the Trelay group?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tess wrote:
Remind me again why you decided not to settle down with the Trelay group?

I don't remember telling you in the first place Laughing. It was mostly studying the business plan wearing my accountants hat. I'm sure it will work, but it didn't feel right for me, even though I helped choose the place.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tess wrote:
Yurts are lovely, and actually very spacious when you're used to living in a 50' by 6' metal tube Smile


50' by 6'! That's luxury. Try living in 17' by 6', and only 12' of that is usable. And sharing it with a fairly large dog Laughing Laughing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnB wrote:
Tess wrote:
Yurts are lovely, and actually very spacious when you're used to living in a 50' by 6' metal tube Smile


50' by 6'! That's luxury. Try living in 17' by 6', and only 12' of that is usable. And sharing it with a fairly large dog Laughing Laughing.



Laughing You can fit in a dog! I'm lucky if I can find space for a radish.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnB wrote:
Tess wrote:
Remind me again why you decided not to settle down with the Trelay group?

I don't remember telling you in the first place Laughing. It was mostly studying the business plan wearing my accountants hat. I'm sure it will work, but it didn't feel right for me, even though I helped choose the place.


No i dont think you did tell me... I thought it was because they hadn't found a place you liked.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnB wrote:
oobers wrote:
One of the interesting things about how we have developed so far is the differing levels of acceptance of PO among our 11 residents.

Do you think it would have been better to form a community from people who are all PO aware, or based on some other big issue? I know the group who moved to Trelay selected themselves, and have a wide variety of reasons for being there. Should the next community have certain aims such as "preparing to survive PO and climate change"?


It would certainly have some advantages, but it would also have led to a whole other set of potential conflict, I think. Just look at this forum - an online community of people who share one thing - full awareness of PO. Most of the time, people agree and the atmosphere is cheerful. But people can also have very differing views of how to go about tackling PO. In a real life community context with decisions to be made about what action to take and how to spend limited financial resources, it could be tough to get concensus where people have similar views but differing priorities held very strongly. At least here, you can switch the community off and go be somewhere else!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tess wrote:
oobers wrote:

Tess - I am finding the cost of living here to be really very low so I don't have to earn very much. I lived in a lovely yurt during the summer while I rented out some of our cottages for holiday makers and now the plan is to buy a few more yurts to rent out for holidays next summer. I think they are a great way to introduce people to simple, low energy living.


Yurts are lovely, and actually very spacious when you're used to living in a 50' by 6' metal tube Smile

Is trelay much better endowed for living space than the place I came to visit? The problem I foresaw back then was the seeming reluctance of many leading residents to have any businesses being run onsite. How have you resolved that issue in order that you can, say, run an eco-hostelry using resources part or wholly owned by others? Do you profit-share?


Trelay is better endowed with living space that can be used right now, but it doesn't have any more living space overall than W.Barton. It does have various new planning permissions though, and this is helping to persuade people to come here. There is still reluctance to get on and run businesses, not because people dont want to but because there is the temptation to just get on with doing stuff for the whole community that doesn't earn any money! With the yurts, I will provide start up capital and be able to use facilities here in return for a 'tythe' paid to SWESE Trelay Ltd that owns the site. I keep any remaining profits.

Tess wrote:
My struggle remains as ever how to earn my keep in the short-term while i reskill for something more rural and suitable for a homestead. Maybe ultimately i just have to trust to fate and use my savings until i figure out how to make it work. Or go off touring like JohnB!


Fate is fun once you really trust in it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stone76567 wrote:
hi everyone..
btw this is my first visit in htis site..
and i want to be a member of this site..
please accept me..
thanks a lot and God Bless..


Welcome. Can I ask before you do....why do you want to live more ecologically?

1. To save the world
2. To save money
3. Both.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

contadino wrote:
stone76567 wrote:
hi everyone..
btw this is my first visit in htis site..
and i want to be a member of this site..
please accept me..
thanks a lot and God Bless..


Welcome. Can I ask before you do....why do you want to live more ecologically?

1. To save the world
2. To save money
3. Both.


He had a hidden advert in his tag line. That's why he was here. I couldn't delete the ad so I deleted his post instead.
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