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Unsure about nuclear power? A few questions to consider

 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:28 am    Post subject: Unsure about nuclear power? A few questions to consider Reply with quote

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Damian Carrington - The Guardian - 21/04/11

Twenty five years on from Chernobyl, the heated debate on nuclear power remains resistant to cold facts: simply too few are known. But making your own judgements on five key questions will lead to your answer.

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1. Do you think the global community can prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons and, if not, do you think it can prevent a nuclear weapon being used?

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2. Is the hazard of climate change greater than that posed by a nuclear disaster?

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3. Is global political will too weak to create a low-carbon energy future that does not involve nuclear power and in time to avert climate chaos?

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4. Is nuclear power vital to ensuring the security of energy supply?

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5. Can the full costs of nuclear truly be calculated?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

6. Do you realise that nuclear power only accounts for a couple of percent of global energy and will never make a jot of difference to climate change in the grand scheme of things?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well as for (1) simply consider that the USA, Russia, UK and France all developed their nuclear weapons programme without ANY recourse to a civil nuclear power programme.

As for (2) climate change, well most of the wheels have now come off that scam, helped by exposure of widespread corruption in the climate science discipline and the dubious nature of much of the temperature data and proxies used to support the thesis. Whether that's a yes or a no for nuclear is another matter - I'd have thought the main point was energy diversity.

(3) renewables are too expensive

(4) and (5) are almost certainly yes.

(6) is irrelevant.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

A fish with three eyes, eh? Terrible thing radioactivity. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say he's between 55 and 65 years of age, smokes a pipe, or used to, is an employee or ex employee of the nuclear or a related industry and believes that BAU/economic growth will continue unhindered indefinitely.

No wonder he can't relate to our point of view.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd say he's between 55 and 65 years of age, smokes a pipe, or used to, is an employee or ex employee of the nuclear or a related industry and believes that BAU/economic growth will continue unhindered indefinitely.

...or that's what you are intended to think. I think it is the most effective anti-nuclear reverse psychology I've seen. Great sparring fun!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with being between 55 and 65 years of age?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
What's wrong with being between 55 and 65 years of age?

It hasn't been great so far Sad.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
What's wrong with being between 55 and 65 years of age?


I can vouch for there being nothing wrong with that but it's the added pipe smoking, slippers on, feet up in front of the fire, snug complacency that goes with it that I don't like.

That's why we have accidents in nuclear facilities. It's the smug complacency that technology is marvellous and nothing can go wrong that causes problems all the time and a problem in a nuke is potential disaster.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I like having slippers on, feet up in front of the fire and snug. I've never mis-designed a nuclear power station. Promise.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
But I like having slippers on, feet up in front of the fire and snug. I've never mis-designed a nuclear power station. Promise.

A nuclear power station with hand made oak windows would look far more attractive Laughing.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
But I like having slippers on, feet up in front of the fire and snug. I've never mis-designed a nuclear power station. Promise.
I think that's fair enough. If, heaven forfend, one of your windows turned out to be, erm, a "Monday morning window", your disgruntled punter could call you up and, presumably, get a replacement. Job done.

If the same happened to a nuke (for example, with aic in charge Twisted Evil ), firstly everyone would blame everyone else, then the thing would disintegrate in a most ungraceful manner leaving large numbers of perfectly innocent people either bankrupt, nursing hideous diseases, or both. Aic, meanwhile, being already in his dotage and with no family or friends to worry about, could face the whole mess with equanimity.
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