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Aurora
Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 8501
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: Planned Somerset nuclear plant on hold ? or not ? |
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Quote: | The Guardian - 27/05/12
Uncertainty over nuclear power renaissance grows as French energy firm delays decision on Hinkley Point.
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biffvernon

Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 18541 Location: Lincolnshire
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ha!
Quote: | The soonest a new reactor will be built in Somerset could now be 2021, around four years later than originally hoped. |
Seems that kicking the can down the road is the new zeitgeist. _________________ http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/ |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6456 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | EDF said it was making "good progress" on site preparation at Hinkley Point after winning approval from West Somerset council in February. |
So presumably they're trashing the site for no purpose. Glad I don't get to see it from up on Exmoor or the Quantocks like I used to. _________________ John
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kenneal - lagger Site Admin
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 11379 Location: Newbury, Berkshire
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:16 am Post subject: |
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They're probably angling for a bigger government subsidy to go ahead with the work. _________________ Action is the antidote to despair - Joan Baez |
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mobbsey

Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 2243 Location: Banbury
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:51 am Post subject: |
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They're French... what's Prince Philip been saying recently??  |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7360 Location: North Somerset
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect that this is not going to be built.
If there is not the money or political will to build it now, will there be more money or more support in four years time ?
I rather doubt it.
Time to get serious about wind power I feel, including perhaps at Hinkly, which already has access roads and a high voltage grid connection. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6456 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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adam2 wrote: | Time to get serious about wind power I feel, including perhaps at Hinkly, which already has access roads and a high voltage grid connection. |
They didn't manage to build a wind farm next to Hinkley Point last time they tried. I think that's why Lady Gass sold the land to EDF. _________________ John
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RenewableCandy

Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 12652 Location: York
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Is that her real name ? _________________ Soyez réaliste. Demandez l'impossible.
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6456 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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RenewableCandy wrote: | Is that her real name ? |
Yup _________________ John
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7360 Location: North Somerset
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: |
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According to reports in todays Times, EDF want a substantial subsidy to build the proposed nuclear reactors.
A subsidy per KWH produced for decades, not a one off grant or subsidy towards the capital costs.
A figure of 165 per MWH is mentioned, though it is not entirely clear if they mean a total price, including subsidy, of 165, or a subsidy of 165 on top of the market price.
This is several times the present wholesale electricity price.
During the life of the nuclear plant, one might expect the price of FF to increase very substantialy, so it could be argued that we should take a long term view, and that eventually nuclear will pay its way.
OTOH, wind power is already cheaper than that, and may well become cheaper still as large wind turbines are mass produced.
The growing number of HVDC interconnectors between the UK and other nations make large scale wind more and viable. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7360 Location: North Somerset
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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kenneal - lagger wrote: | They're probably angling for a bigger government subsidy to go ahead with the work. |
Absolutely, see preceeding post ! _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6456 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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emordnilap

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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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JohnB wrote: | http://theosimon.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/somebody-elses-problem/ |
Cool, that's a brilliant piece. Poor old Monbiot, he's painted himself into a corner.
Theo wrote: | It is as if we were saying to our children We have had to behave irrationally (nuclear) to avoid behaving even more irrationally (fossil fuels), because we didnt care enough about you to take a rational, but more politically challenging, route. |
_________________ I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6456 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I posted on Facebook when I shared the link:
"Interesting discussion between Theo Simon (of Seize the Day) and George Monbiot on Hinkley C, and nuclear power in general. To me it comes down to a choice between nukes now and sod the future (when we're all dead, but grandchildren will clean up the mess, if they can), and taking bold action now to reduce demand and put everything into renewables.
I don't have any children, so it won't affect my descendants, but I'd still rather cover the countryside in wind turbines (if that's what it takes) than leave a nuclear waste problem, as well as a wrecked climate from fossil fuel use, to future generations." _________________ John
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alex

Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Cannington Somerset
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Well us in Hinkley territory (TA5 postcode) are now in limbo awaiting the outcome of what was affectionately known as the IPC, where permission will be granted (or denied)
In the meantime we in our village are having to endure to comings and goings of several HGV's each and every day whilst they (EdF) continue to raze the ground in readiness to proceed. Of course they had planning permission to rip out hedges, destroy habitat etc, and there was a time scale which appears to have since expired, so the movements I suppose are now under a different premise.
Alex _________________ If it wasn't for pick-pockets & frisking at airports, I'd have no sex life at all .................Rodney Dangerfield. |
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