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Janco2
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We've been planting 200- 400 trees for future coppicing for the last 5 years. The fields are getting smaller on a yearly basis.
We still buy in some wood every year but also cut down an appreciable amount of our own.
We have 2 years supply stored but are working towards increasing that to 3 years asap.
We have foreseen an inevitable increase in price looming and that's if we can still obtain some 
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emordnilap
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| Janco2 wrote: | | We've been planting 200- 400 trees for future coppicing for the last 5 years. |
Is that per annum? Well done, that's serious work - one a day! <jealous>
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Janco2
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it has been for 5 years now.
Unfortunately as we are fairly high up, they take a while to establish but they do make it eventually. We've planted a few trees every year for the last 30 years but only in the last 5 years have we decided it is better to have trees than just let the local farmer cut for hay once a year.
We foresaw impending problems in the 70's so moved here in 1980 and ran a smallholding for many years until our old house cow departed and BSE meant it was not worth investing in another.
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lurker
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| Quote: | | The logs work out at about 30 quid per cubic-yard (loose) |
That sounds very expensive a cubic yard is only about one log basket so you would burn that in one day!
Are you sure you don'y mean cubic metre for 30 quid which would be a very good price?
chech you figures on the the arbtalk forum i reckon. 
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Little John
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| lurker wrote: | | Quote: | | The logs work out at about 30 quid per cubic-yard (loose) |
That sounds very expensive a cubic yard is only about one log basket so you would burn that in one day!
Are you sure you don'y mean cubic metre for 30 quid which would be a very good price?
chech you figures on the the arbtalk forum i reckon. |
Commercial supplier bought softwood firewood is usually not less than 50 quid a cubic metre and not less than about 80 quid a cubic metre for hard. Prices vary around those figures quite widely, though depending on the source. |
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Blue Peter
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| lurker wrote: | | Quote: | | The logs work out at about 30 quid per cubic-yard (loose) |
That sounds very expensive a cubic yard is only about one log basket so you would burn that in one day!
Are you sure you don'y mean cubic metre for 30 quid which would be a very good price?
chech you figures on the the arbtalk forum i reckon. |
Being an oldie, metric's all very confusing for me, but I don't think there's that much difference between a cubic metre and a cubic yard, such that 30 for one would be brilliant whislt 30 for another would be absolutely rubbish,
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extractorfan
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I assumed there was a mix up between feet and yards. |
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Blue Peter
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| extractorfan wrote: | | I assumed there was a mix up between feet and yards. |
I, of course, meant, "Being a youngie, imperial's all very confusing for me..."
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JohnB
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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A metre is a yard with a bonus 3 inches.
For every several metres I multiply by 3 and add a foot, so I can visualise it.
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| JohnB wrote: | For every several metres I multiply by 3 and add a foot
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snow hope
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I have been burning decent quantities of firewood for 3 years now and have yet to have to buy any wood. I intend to keep it that way. 
On Saturday I am visiting somebody who wants a Eucalyptus tree cut down. I do this for free as long as I get to take the wood away.  Anybody know what Eucalyptus is like for burning? Never burnt it before.
Also getting some other trees/logs I have spotted cut down on some unused land a bit out of the way. It will be filling my trailer by Saturday evening and probably on Sunday too. Waste not want not.... Keeps me fit and keeps my wife warm.
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RenewableCandy
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I think it's quite pungent and will need a long time seasoning.
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adam2
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:00 am Post subject: |
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A cubic meter is bigger than a cubic yard, but not hugely so.
A cubic foot is much smaller. Firewood is not normally sold by the cubic foot.
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mobbsey
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| adam2 wrote: | | Firewood is not normally sold by the cubic foot. |
...or any volumetric quantity, because the energy density is so variable!
E.g., I'd rather have a cubic yard of of oak rather than a cubic yard of eucalyptus! |
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biffvernon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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But there's not much difference in calorific values between different species of wood, measured by mass at the same moisture content.
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