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No doubt some people will argue this is acceptable

 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:37 am    Post subject: No doubt some people will argue this is acceptable Reply with quote

Look at 2:17

https://youtu.be/wfzgIxMEo8g
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regrettably, yes.

No way of generating electricity is entirely without risk to both wildlife and the machinery itself/surroundings.

What alternative would you propose ?
Nuclear=expensive, waste disposal problems, takes 20 years to plan and build.
Natural gas=imported from unstable places, liable to become very expensive as supplies deplete, produces carbon.
Coal=polluting both locally and climate changing.
Solar= has a significant part to play but of limited use in the winter. No doubt a bird has been killed somewhere by a PV module.
Hydroelectric= has some impact on wildlife and all the best sites are already exploited in the uk.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That unfortunately typifies the arrogance of the human species. If it was people getting killed there would be comparative uproar, but if it's another species it's just an acceptable incidental occurrance.

I was expecting such a reply, so no surprises there.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was people getting killed, no one but those directly affected would much care !
Huge numbers of coal miners are killed in mining accidents and no one but their families worries, certainly no uproar Sad

Lots of people die in the third world due to lack of electricity and no uproar results.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may be a lack of electricity in the third world, and there may be many pepole dying, but such an association cannot be assumed to be a cause. Many people probably die because families are large and the food supply is insufficient. Nevertheless, we are in a gross over population situatin which is unsustainable. We could afford to lose a few billion people and the human race would still be too numerous for comfort. If we lose a few thousand vultures we have an eco-system problem.
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