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Low Wattage Immersion Heater
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Agile



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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several devices being sold now to variably control the power to a 3 kW immersion heater element depending on how much power is being exported.

The only way that I can imagine these achieve that is by using a triac switch.

It will work but will generate an odd current waveform on the supply which will come from the inverter but buffered by the grid.

Can anyone confirm they use a triac?

Has anyone had any problems resulting from the waveform?

Tony
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Agile/Tony.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote from LJ

"I simply cannot see the point of a low power electric immersion heater. All that would mean is that it would take commensurately longer to achieve the same temperature.

The only thing that can affect energy consumption in an electric immersion heater is insulation". Quote ends.


In general, with an ample supply of grid electricity there is nothing to be gained by use of a low wattage immersion heater.
No saving in use of 1KW for 3 hours instead of 3KW for one hour.

However use of such a heater as a dump load from say a wind turbine can be most effective.
If only a restricted mains supply is available, then a low loading water heater can help. There are still some domestic supplies of only 40 amps.
Use of a standard 3KW element would leave only 27 amps for other loads which is very limiting. Changing to a 750 watt element would leave about 37 amps available, a considerable improvement.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For people on off grid systems, the higher end MTTP controllers (Outback, Morningstar etc) have a low power relay which can be controlled using voltage set points, time etc. In the spring I'm going to install a relay which will give a timed or voltage controlled pulse of immersion heater so that we can make use of all the lovely photons that we miss out on at the moment because our batteries are in float by 10am.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I see I posted about this in the previous page...

We have been missing out on loads of hot water using manual switching so a relay is definitely the way forwards.
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