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the joys of smart meters?

 
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cubes



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:33 am    Post subject: the joys of smart meters? Reply with quote

SSE smart meter glitch quotes 19k bill for one day

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39169313

"system error"... or hack perhaps?
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johnhemming2



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is inevitable that some errors will be found by end users.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is inevitable that companies put flakey and poorly tested systems on the market as getting the users to do their testing for them is cheaper.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Human beings are not perfect. Hence systems made by them will at time have flaws.
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Pepperman



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also this in the Netherlands:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170303180139.htm

Ultimately I think smart meters are essential but I worry about how it is being implemented. I fear it could turn sour.
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cubes



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhemming2 wrote:
Human beings are not perfect. Hence systems made by them will at time have flaws.


Yes, the problem is the security of these systems is also the responsibility of humans and of corporations that the meters produced as cheaply as possible. If they have the ability to remotely cut off electricity (which isn't the case?) then it will happen via hackers.
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Little John



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless it has a direct use value to me and increases my capacity to have direct agency on my circumstances, I am only interested in simplifying the technology in my life. I now apply this principle to any new technology when it is being sold to me as a "benefit".

Maybe it's just an age thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubes wrote:
If they have the ability to remotely cut off electricity (which isn't the case?) then it will happen via hackers.


Oh! bugger! I was looking forward to being able to cut off all the wind turbine and other renewables NIMBYs when we have a power shortage.
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cubes



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression (from govt propaganda) the no kill switch has been included, reality may differ from this however Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a technical note on the Dutch study:

http://www.vesma.com/downloads/reported_meter_errors.pdf
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