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woodburner



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automaton wrote:
Since this thread is about health in a post-peak world, I would suggest that since there is evidence a plant-based whole-grain diet can actually reverse many health problems as well as prevent them, then following such a diet may be a way to optimise health now, in preparation for whatever we have to do in that world when it comes. Here's a good guide (with an unfortunately terrible title) : 'How Not to Die', by Michael Greger ( http://nutritionfacts.org/book/ ).


Whole grains can cause problems too. Humans are not designed to eat grains.

Here is part 2 of a three part series. This one deals with non-celiac problems, but to say whole grains will cure peoples problems is a serious misrepresentation since the largest proportion of grains are cereals.

https://rosemarycottageclinic.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/why-no-one-should-eat-grains-part-2-the-definitive-guide-to-non-coeliac-gluten-sensitivity/
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer my grain milled into flour. Whole grains are tough on the teeth.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a very plausible theory being developed that non celiac gluten intolerance is very much to do with the practice of desiccating grain crops with Roundup immediately prior to harvest to dry them our evenly. The presence of a known carcinogen in much of our grain crop and in a large proportion of people could be the cause of many of these problems.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
There is a very plausible theory being developed that non celiac gluten intolerance is very much to do with the practice of desiccating grain crops with Roundup immediately prior to harvest to dry them our evenly. The presence of a known carcinogen in much of our grain crop and in a large proportion of people could be the cause of many of these problems.


Well said Ken. I had the epiphany regarding the use of pesticides in 1986 and we have stuck to around 90-95% organic food since then. We are both very fit, normal weight, look younger than our years (so people tell us Wink ), have good skin, very little ill-health and don't really feel much different to 30 years ago. I have a resting heart rate in the low 40s and the only health 'issue' I have to address is lack of vitamin D, which is not surprising in Ireland. We're from totally different genetic backgrounds too.

We're told we should be on this medication and that, be such-and-such unhealthy for our ages etc but the longer we live, the more convinced we are that food is our medicine.

Eating pesticide has never struck me as sensible. But most people seem extremely keen on it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodburner wrote:
... to say whole grains will cure peoples problems is a serious misrepresentation since the largest proportion of grains are cereals.


Well, he makes that claim based on the best evidence to date, so it's not a misrepresentation (note that I said ' a plant-based whole-grain diet', which you re-interpreted as 'grains' to support your own agenda). It seems by the way, that there is also evidence that going without the gluten found in wholegrains can cause health problems too (see the link at the end of this comment).

woodburner wrote:
https://rosemarycottageclinic.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/why-no-one-should-eat-grains-part-2-the-definitive-guide-to-non-coeliac-gluten-sensitivity/


And that's an interesting article, with anecdotal evidence to support it, but this is more helpful: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/gluten-free-diets-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chat/
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automaton wrote:
To get back on post :

I think a massive problem we face right now is antibiotic resistance. We're getting close to the point where none of them will work anymore, and then we'll really have.... nothing. Hygiene and antibiotics are pretty much all modern medicine has in it's bag of tricks, apart from surgery (which also depends highly on antibiotics). We'll be back to the days of people dying from a tooth infection, or a cut. I'd imagine that the pharmaceutical industry will be toast when the price of oil shoots back up, just like everything else, so if they don't find alternatives soon...

Will this happen before everything collapses, or will it just be part of the convergence of disasters?

How effective are the natural antibiotics found in plants such as garlic? Can herbal medicine fill (some of) the gap?


Without going into lots of information, which is easily available if you search for Robert Cathcart, Suzanne Humphries, Fredrick Klenner, Tom Levy, Andrew Saul, and others, vitamin C and a good diet will cure most of your ills caused by toxins, bacteria or vira. The trick is to take enough, which is way more than most people, including doctors, think. Antibiotics are not needed, and bugs cannot build up rresistance to vitamin C.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodburner wrote:
Without going into lots of information, which is easily available if you search for Robert Cathcart, Suzanne Humphries, Edward Klenner, Tom Levy, Andrew Saul, and others, vitamin C and a good diet will cure most of your ills caused by toxins, bacteria or virii. The trick is to take enough, which is way more than most people, including doctors, think. Antibiotics are not needed, and bugs cannot build up rresistance to vitamin C.

Without denying the value of Vitamin C, I don't believe that there is no use for Antibiotics (in the sense that they are not needed)

Additionally Wikipedia has a big section on the issue of the plural of Virus. Viri in latin means men. Virii is not a word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_form_of_words_ending_in_-us#Virus
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always feel it's a shame that Wik doesn't credit its contributors. I can picture you writing that entry, John.

Please take my last comment in the spirit it was intended - as a jocular, double-edged, compliment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnemmings2, I've corrected the plural of virus, and note your wish to continue with antibiotics, which,no doubt complements your wish to continue with flouride and other modern dietary formulas Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I avoid using Antibiotics where possible, but that does not mean I will not use them. I am completely unconcerned about the fact that my children and I drink water with a bit of Fluoride in it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest on the "getting-fit" lark:

I'm still here, still jogging, but no fitter now than I was last year.

Mind you, three of us *did* make it up Ben Nevis...
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long time no see RC. Nice to see you back in town...Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RenewableCandy wrote:
Latest on the "getting-fit" lark:

I'm still here, still jogging, but no fitter now than I was last year.

Mind you, three of us *did* make it up Ben Nevis...


'No fitter'! From the above, it sounds like you're doing fine.
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