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woodburner



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automaton wrote:
Since this thread is about health in a post-peak world, I would suggest that since there is evidence a plant-based whole-grain diet can actually reverse many health problems as well as prevent them, then following such a diet may be a way to optimise health now, in preparation for whatever we have to do in that world when it comes. Here's a good guide (with an unfortunately terrible title) : 'How Not to Die', by Michael Greger ( http://nutritionfacts.org/book/ ).


Whole grains can cause problems too. Humans are not designed to eat grains.

Here is part 2 of a three part series. This one deals with non-celiac problems, but to say whole grains will cure peoples problems is a serious misrepresentation since the largest proportion of grains are cereals.

https://rosemarycottageclinic.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/why-no-one-should-eat-grains-part-2-the-definitive-guide-to-non-coeliac-gluten-sensitivity/
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer my grain milled into flour. Whole grains are tough on the teeth.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a very plausible theory being developed that non celiac gluten intolerance is very much to do with the practice of desiccating grain crops with Roundup immediately prior to harvest to dry them our evenly. The presence of a known carcinogen in much of our grain crop and in a large proportion of people could be the cause of many of these problems.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
There is a very plausible theory being developed that non celiac gluten intolerance is very much to do with the practice of desiccating grain crops with Roundup immediately prior to harvest to dry them our evenly. The presence of a known carcinogen in much of our grain crop and in a large proportion of people could be the cause of many of these problems.


Well said Ken. I had the epiphany regarding the use of pesticides in 1986 and we have stuck to around 90-95% organic food since then. We are both very fit, normal weight, look younger than our years (so people tell us Wink ), have good skin, very little ill-health and don't really feel much different to 30 years ago. I have a resting heart rate in the low 40s and the only health 'issue' I have to address is lack of vitamin D, which is not surprising in Ireland. We're from totally different genetic backgrounds too.

We're told we should be on this medication and that, be such-and-such unhealthy for our ages etc but the longer we live, the more convinced we are that food is our medicine.

Eating pesticide has never struck me as sensible. But most people seem extremely keen on it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodburner wrote:
... to say whole grains will cure peoples problems is a serious misrepresentation since the largest proportion of grains are cereals.


Well, he makes that claim based on the best evidence to date, so it's not a misrepresentation (note that I said ' a plant-based whole-grain diet', which you re-interpreted as 'grains' to support your own agenda). It seems by the way, that there is also evidence that going without the gluten found in wholegrains can cause health problems too (see the link at the end of this comment).

woodburner wrote:
https://rosemarycottageclinic.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/why-no-one-should-eat-grains-part-2-the-definitive-guide-to-non-coeliac-gluten-sensitivity/


And that's an interesting article, with anecdotal evidence to support it, but this is more helpful: http://nutritionfacts.org/video/gluten-free-diets-separating-the-wheat-from-the-chat/
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automaton wrote:
To get back on post :

I think a massive problem we face right now is antibiotic resistance. We're getting close to the point where none of them will work anymore, and then we'll really have.... nothing. Hygiene and antibiotics are pretty much all modern medicine has in it's bag of tricks, apart from surgery (which also depends highly on antibiotics). We'll be back to the days of people dying from a tooth infection, or a cut. I'd imagine that the pharmaceutical industry will be toast when the price of oil shoots back up, just like everything else, so if they don't find alternatives soon...

Will this happen before everything collapses, or will it just be part of the convergence of disasters?

How effective are the natural antibiotics found in plants such as garlic? Can herbal medicine fill (some of) the gap?


Without going into lots of information, which is easily available if you search for Robert Cathcart, Suzanne Humphries, Fredrick Klenner, Tom Levy, Andrew Saul, and others, vitamin C and a good diet will cure most of your ills caused by toxins, bacteria or vira. The trick is to take enough, which is way more than most people, including doctors, think. Antibiotics are not needed, and bugs cannot build up rresistance to vitamin C.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodburner wrote:
Without going into lots of information, which is easily available if you search for Robert Cathcart, Suzanne Humphries, Edward Klenner, Tom Levy, Andrew Saul, and others, vitamin C and a good diet will cure most of your ills caused by toxins, bacteria or virii. The trick is to take enough, which is way more than most people, including doctors, think. Antibiotics are not needed, and bugs cannot build up rresistance to vitamin C.

Without denying the value of Vitamin C, I don't believe that there is no use for Antibiotics (in the sense that they are not needed)

Additionally Wikipedia has a big section on the issue of the plural of Virus. Viri in latin means men. Virii is not a word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_form_of_words_ending_in_-us#Virus
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always feel it's a shame that Wik doesn't credit its contributors. I can picture you writing that entry, John.

Please take my last comment in the spirit it was intended - as a jocular, double-edged, compliment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnemmings2, I've corrected the plural of virus, and note your wish to continue with antibiotics, which,no doubt complements your wish to continue with flouride and other modern dietary formulas Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I avoid using Antibiotics where possible, but that does not mean I will not use them. I am completely unconcerned about the fact that my children and I drink water with a bit of Fluoride in it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest on the "getting-fit" lark:

I'm still here, still jogging, but no fitter now than I was last year.

Mind you, three of us *did* make it up Ben Nevis...
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long time no see RC. Nice to see you back in town...Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RenewableCandy wrote:
Latest on the "getting-fit" lark:

I'm still here, still jogging, but no fitter now than I was last year.

Mind you, three of us *did* make it up Ben Nevis...


'No fitter'! From the above, it sounds like you're doing fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearer home, my mother is now ill with heart failure and requires almost continual oxygen.
Somewhat of a worry as the oxygen concentrator is reliant on mains electricity.
An emergency cylinder of oxygen is available for power cuts or in case the machine breaks, but that only lasts about 12 hours. A replacement cylinder should in theory be available within an hour or two, and probably would be if only a few people needed one.
I have little faith in "the system" coping with any widespread outage and many patients all needing oxygen cylinders.

I have a UPS and would in an emergency connect the oxygen concentrator to this.

I may have to buy a generator, despite the noise, fuel handling, and risk of theft.
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Yesterday I got my diagnosis of aggressive prostate cancer. I have already started treatment, which will continue for 5-6 months. The chemical element is relatively low tech, but the radiotherapy is quite high tech, and dependant on stable electricity supply, although power cuts would not be directly harmful to me. It is the diagnosis - the MRI scanners and high tech X-ray scanners which are most dependant on electricity supply.

As I have been diagnosed just as I am being made redundant, I am going to take a few months off before looking for work again. The cancer is symptomless, and modern treatments hopefully have limited side effects.

A good chance to catch up in the garden, and old friends again.
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