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vtsnowedin



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS_RalphW wrote:
Which can be reversed by a later president or the supreme court, or Congress with a big enough majority.

Has a presidential pardon ever been reversed?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it can. In theory a new law could be passed, it may even require a constitutional change. In essence a pardon is it.

He should have left the embassy before Trump came to power.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should certainly leave the embassy before Trump leaves power.

If he were to walk out of that embassy now, and end up in US custody being charged for some offence which the US has no right to charge him for, he would rapidly become a focus for global condemnation of the United States and put Trump in a near-impossible position.

All he has done is publish documents leaked by somebody else. He's not a US citizen, his actions did not take place in US territory, and it is not even clear that he would have committed a crime even if he was a US citizen and working within the US.

The idea that the US could just lock him up and treat him like Bradley Manning is bordering on unthinkable now. Maybe a few years ago, but if the US did that now then the political consequences would be enormous - far too enormous for somebody of Trump's limited abilities to cope with.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chelsea Manning - who had a sentence reduced by Obama.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flurry of Assange stories in the last 24 hours. Ecuador has had enough, it seems.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-42629761

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Julian Assange: Ecuador seeks mediator in 'unsustainable' standoff
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assange granted Ecuadorian citizenship, Ecuador asks for him to be recognised as having diplomatic status, UK refuses:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jan/11/julian-assange-is-made-ecuadorian-citizen-in-effort-to-resolve-impasse
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