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Potemkin Villager



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they had to curtail about 500MW of wind about 2200 last night as the penetration was heading into the, shall we say, interesting region of 100%. If one of the inter-connectors had gone down again they would have had to diss another 500 MW of wind.

There is a question as to if there is already too much wind on the system whilst there is huge pressure to build a whole load more. This is all uncharted territory and load management is still scarcely being mentioned.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things a bit different now with 4.6 GW demand and only 521 MW wind and importing 362 MW from the UK - phew good job we didn't close down any of those gas fueled power stations!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're gonna need a bigger interconnector Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RenewableCandy wrote:
You're gonna need a bigger interconnector Very Happy


Better to store the excess wind energy somehow and take from that storage when necessary. If the Island of Ireland grid wants another inter-connector they will need to pay for half or even more of it. The cable will be made by Nexans or Prysmian (French and Italian respectively) the converter stations will be made by ABB or Siemens (Swedish/Swiss and German respectively) and the cable will be laid by a Dutch ship crewed by Dutch and Belgians. Not much work for Ireland or the UK there. Better to do some concreting, earthworks and pipework by an Irish company on a pumped storage scheme and use some pump generator units imported from somewhere (the UK used to make these but no longer).

I hear they (IOI grid) are interested in a link to France as well. I think they are probably better having a link there than to the UK, as the UK and Ireland wind generation tends to peak together, and they will have to try to sell to a saturated UK market or import UK gas generation. At least they can import carbon free French nuclear power but at 600km the length is very great.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today, June 14 at about 10-00, wind power is the largest single contributor to the UK grid.
This has been achieved before, but is most unusual at this time of year.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BritDownUnder wrote:
...At least they can import carbon free French nuclear power but at 600km the length is very great.


Carbon free if you discount the massive amounts of concrete that go into the power stations and the, yet to be built, waste storage facilities. That's not to mention the energy used to actually decommission them in 150 years time when they are quite likely to be surrounded by sea water!
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The (past, present and most importantly the future) disadvantages of nuclear drastically outweigh the mere current advantages. We vote to be hidebound by short-term, selfish interests.

And the humungous amount of wasted cash, most of which which ultimately is forked out by those least able to afford it, has and always will be a crime.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It boggles my (pedantic) mind that people quote Carbon figures on nuclear power when no-one's yet agreed how we're going to handle the waste.
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RenewableCandy wrote:
It boggles my (pedantic) mind that people quote Carbon figures on nuclear power when no-one's yet agreed how we're going to handle the waste.


Precisely. The difference, CO2-wise, nuclear makes is negligible and irrelevant at best, in the grand scheme of things.

It's a pure distraction.

I suggest we take all nuclear material and its proponents into space and launch the lot towards the sun.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the last 48 hours wind has been the single biggest source of electricity in the UK. On site is currently quoting 14GW production

http://clivebest.com/rgraph/Wind.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS_RalphW wrote:
For the last 48 hours wind has been the single biggest source of electricity in the UK. On site is currently quoting 14GW production

http://clivebest.com/rgraph/Wind.html


This represents a good saving of gas.
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