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Much of Western America Will Be Uninhabitable In 40 Years
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:32 pm    Post subject: Much of Western America Will Be Uninhabitable In 40 Years Reply with quote

http://www.ianwelsh.net/much-of-western-america-will-be-uninhabitable-in-40-years/

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Large parts of the US will be riven by permanent drought in the rather forseeable future. And fracking is making it worse… much worse.

Moreover, many of these wells are in western areas of the US which are already water-stressed.

Plus fracking tends to poison groundwater and aquifers, making those sources permanently unusable, no matter how much remains.

This is the sort of insanity which is routine today: burning seed corn to heat the house. We know what we’re doing is insanely short-sighted. We know it will come back to burn us badly later on. We do it anyway because it makes money in the short term.

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A lot of truth in a few words.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anti-fracking Protectors are having their cases heard in Court here in York.

Our magistrate, having by now heard many of these folk - teachers, retired engineers, vicars and the like - defend themselves, seems to've taken to handing them the lowest sentence legally possible.

Events in the USA and Australia are being cited a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The enormous gulf between political rhetoric and reality grows ever wider and deeper, probably at least exponentially. I am sure many want to believe that we can make nation states great again and this populist delusion and similar will continue to be believed by many with increasing desperation as things progress to their unavoidable conclusion.

There is no point in trying to convince them otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am sure many want to believe that we can make nation states great again and this populist delusion and similar will continue to be believed by many with increasing desperation as things progress to their unavoidable conclusion.

The reason that population are returning to the nation-state is that it is capable of making unilateral decisions to the benefit of the public.

Look at Italy. The public waited years for the EU to find a solution to the migration crisis. They couldn't.

In the end they voted in a populist government which has sharply reduced the numbers coming in.

Ditto for Hungary in 2015. A national government built a fence which stopped the migrants coming in against the wishes of the EU. Again, it worked. No more migrants got in to Hungary.

When France was hit by terrorist attacks in 2015, did the socialist government turn to Europe? Of course not! It suspended Schengen, renationalised the borders temporarily to hunt down the terrorists.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Potemkin Villager wrote:
The enormous gulf between political rhetoric and reality grows ever wider and deeper, probably at least exponentially. I am sure many want to believe that we can make nation states great again and this populist delusion and similar will continue to be believed by many with increasing desperation as things progress to their unavoidable conclusion.

There is no point in trying to convince them otherwise.

The enormous gulf between a globalist ideology of a bourgeois political class (aided and abetted in the wider culture by a globalist-ideology-dominated media and a rapidly disintegrating petite bourgeois middle class) who are now little more than the management arm of the global corporations, and the reality of the the lives of the citizens whose lives they preside over grows ever wider and deeper, probably at least exponentially. I am sure many in the management classes are holding up their hands in horror at how it could have all come to this and desperately want to believe that the recent rise of populism may yet be strangled at birth and BUA be resumed. And why wouldn't they? They've done very nicely out of globalism over the last 40 odd years.

Maybe now, finally, the smug, supercilious, liberal bourgeoisie and petite-bourgeoisie - people, I suspect, just like you - will stop looking admiringly in the mirror at their own resplendent reflections long enough to see the anger in the faces of the mob that is growing all around them. Maybe. But, I doubt it.

This will end with bloodshed.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will all hang separately rather than together.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Potemkin Villager wrote:
We will all hang separately rather than together.


Disagree.

Nation-states need to start adapting at a national level, where action is easier to take, as we transition into an era of scarcity industrialism then wait for a "global consensus" to emerge.

A certain degree of climate change is already baked in, making parts of the world inhospitable to large scale human life which will lead to huge migrations within decades.

There is no global solution to such a crisis.

It will be every nation and region to its own. Time to batten down and prepare for a rising tide of chaos, failed states and resource scarcity/climate change driven destabilization across large parts of the world.

https://forecastingintelligence.org/2018/08/13/the-sleepwalkers/

I write about this in my blog and the tragedy is that the basic facts have been known since the 70's.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Beria3 wrote:
Nation-states need to start adapting at a national level, where action is easier to take, as we transition into an era of scarcity industrialism then wait for a "global consensus" to emerge.

We're seeing some of this *within* nation states already, with cities, regions and states going further than their national governments are able/willing to.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The South and Southwest of the USA experienced an emigration surge from the Northern states after the advent of air conditioning.People moved and adapted to the changing conditions. As conditions change now in a negative direction people will again adapt and move back away from those areas that have become noncompetitive.
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Got a billion or two? Head to New Zealand

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New Zealand allows émigrés to buy residency via investor visas. As a result, super wealthy Americans have poured a fortune into the country and whenever possible acquire palatial estates. For example, James Cameron of Titanic fame bought a mansion at Lake Pounui.

Sotheby’s claims several well-heeled Americans have bought multimillion-dollar properties in the Queenstown area over the past two years. Maybe these billionaires are privy to information of a pending alert or upcoming disaster. Who knows?

Peter Thiel, the PayPal billionaire and renowned super-super-super libertarian and unapologetic Trumpster love-fester achieved New Zealand citizenship in only 12 days and bought not only his citizenship but a $13.8M estate in Wanaka, a lakeside community.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/capitalism-un-scientists-preparing-end-fossil-fuels-warning-demise-a8523856.html?utm_source=reddit.com

This UN report warns capitalism is dying due to the end of cheap energy.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hall and Klittegard's book "Energy and the Wealth of Nations: an Introduction to BioPhysical Economics" gets a good review in that article. They published this book seven years ago and finally it is being realised that what they said is very relevant to the situation that we find ourselves in.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Beria3 wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/capitalism-un-scientists-preparing-end-fossil-fuels-warning-demise-a8523856.html?utm_source=reddit.com

This UN report warns capitalism is dying due to the end of cheap energy.
Capitalism will thrive in a world of decreasing energy supply. Those that succeed will survive and those that fail will die along with all those that go the socialist route.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not capitalism as we know it!!!

Greer has already predicted the end of money within our declining industrial civilization within 50 to 150 years.
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