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Here's why climate change is a growing problem still.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woodburner, this is the second time that you've mentioned this petition and I dealt with it last time. Please go back through what I wrote probably a month ago now.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect the signatories to the petition can not be part of the 97%, as they don’t agree with AGW. That means there are just over a million “climate scientists” who make up the 97%. Or maybe the 31,000 are not “climate scientists”, but then neither is Al Gore, but it doesn’t stop the AGW group claiming he is right.

I wonder where the 97% came from, perhaps this could provide some insight.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really are losing your way, Woodburner. The 97% refers to climate scientists not the motley collection people from across the scientific and long retired scientific world that are represented in this petition. The 97% refers to scientists who work in the field of climate change, who are up to date with the research on climate change and who thus really know what they are talking about.

If you had a problem with your car would you call in a carpenter to give you advice? Probably not. You would take it to someone who really knows what they are talking about like a car mechanic perhaps! That's why I go to www.skepticalscience.com for my advice. It's like taking a car to a garage to get it fixed rather than the local builders merchant. You might find a Youtube video on how to fix your car but you don't really know whether what they are talking about is what is wrong with the car.

Perhaps you would like to pick through the list and see if you can find anyone who works in Climate Science and contributes to the "supposed" 3% of contrarians.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ianwelsh.net/say-goodbye-to-permafrost-and-civilization/

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Since we continue to pump green house gasses out, since every scenario includes more significant warning, I will state again: we are not going to avoid permafrost melting.

Permafrost holds vast amounts of methane. Methane is, short term, a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

This will likely then lead to methane releases from arctic seas. It will lead to faster melting of glaciers and polar and antarctic ice. As oceans warm, they will expand further, leading to sea level rises.

Increased temperatures will lead to even more extreme weather events such as category 6 hurricanes.

We will see changes in weather patterns and so on.

But the key point is that we are about to hit, and there is no actual possibility of avoiding, the accelerator, almost certainly leading to exponential uncontrolled increases in climate change.

We are, for all practical purposes, past the point of no return. We will lose our coastal cities, for example, the only question is when. The glaciers and snowcap in most of the world will go away, leading to many rivers drying up.

Etc, etc…

Climate change is not a question, it is a certainty, and the question is not will it be bad, but “how bad?”

The answer is almost certainly, “very, very bad.”


It's all looking rather grim.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good DWTV (Deutsche Welle) program on YouTube about people fleeing climate change and the middle section is about permafrost in Russia. The scientist being interviewed said that there is more organic matter locked up in the permafrost than there is living organic matter in the whole world. When it melts it can all theoretically be added to global warming gases already present in the atmosphere.

Not the kind of documentary that cheers you up.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a URL for that BDU?
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