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Little John



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:12 pm    Post subject: Trump's UK visit Reply with quote

President Trump has arrived and the usual tiresome virtue signalling has gone into overdrive.

There's London Mayor Sadiq Khan and that pathetic, childish stunt of the Trump balloon. Then there's Jeremy Corbyn, a wannabe prime minister, refusing to attend tonight's state banquet in the president's honour, as has Lib Dem leader Vince Cable. Shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry refuses to meet him. This isn't grown-up politics. This is more like student union level politics. All the above are just making themselves look like childish twits.

I'm certainly not one to have rose-tinted spectacles about the so-called Special Relationship. America always puts America first. I've no doubt they would push us aside if they thought we were getting in the way and, in any event, the UK should not be seeking to to be treated like a junior partner. The relationship between America and the UK should be more arms length than we've too often been. Having said that, the UK has long-standing historical links with the USA. Our armed forces have fought and died side by side in wars. And unlike other heads of state who've visited the UK, Donald Trump is a democratically elected one. The more Trump is virtue signalled about, the more likely he is to get re-elected next year.

As for Corbyn, he has now lost all claim to being a credible statesman. Snubbing Trump, the president of the most powerful nation in the world is beyond absurd. Corbyn as Prime Minister would have to negotiate with Trump. And what are Trump's crimes? He doesn't agree with certain gay activists and feminists agendas. Obama was a f***ing mass murderer but he remains a liberal hero. Why? Because he was mixed race and not white.

All of this bullshit makes me and millions of other people in the UK utterly sick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Trump's UK visit Reply with quote

Little John wrote:

All of this bullshit makes me and millions of other people in the UK utterly sick.


Then the protests should be quite a bit larger. Unless of course you don't speak for those millions, and instead are just a bullshitter. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump may well be the President of the most powerful nation in the world, but there's no denying he is an obnoxious little tit on the personality level, and a complete f***ing criminal regarding his views on global warming.
Corbyn et al should be meeting him, not avoiding him. And they should be pointing out a few things to his Turdship.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Mr President. Go home Trump!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eatyourveg wrote:
Trump may well be the President of the most powerful nation in the world, but there's no denying he is an obnoxious little tit on the personality level, and a complete f***ing criminal regarding his views on global warming.
Corbyn et al should be meeting him, not avoiding him. And they should be pointing out a few things to his Turdship.

Apparently, Trump turned him down https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48515506
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it quite amusing to see so many people lose their minds when it comes to Trump.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and Corbyn.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK will get a phenomenal trade deal! Laughing Laughing Laughing

You want to believe what Trumps bagman, Lame Fox, would deliver.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently how to deal between your health system and the USA's is a sticking point. So complicated that it is unlikely to come to a conclusion before the 2020 US elections and your probable general election are both completed.
Do we dare to hope that by then we will both have better leaders in office and a very profitable result for all?
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Little John



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you Yanks want to see us cheap drugs and equipment, then there is plenty to do a deal about on healthcare.

If you want to be able to operate private healthcare companies in this country, there is nothing to deal about on healthcare.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little John wrote:
If you Yanks want to see us cheap drugs and equipment, then there is plenty to do a deal about on healthcare.

If you want to be able to operate private healthcare companies in this country, there is nothing to deal about on healthcare.
That is OK. You can always fly to the US or India if you can't wait for service from the NHS.
I already have both drugs and medical equipment made in the UK so don't know who wants to change what. Probably learn more as the negotiations proceed.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reports coming out right now of interview that Trump has given that he has been misrepresented and he is only interested in seeing sales of pharmaceuticals and the like to the UK being made more easy and transparent. He has explicitly said vis a vis the NHS itself "That's something I would not consider part of trade. That's not trade."

All of which is fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: The most honest President of all time Reply with quote

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Trump has been continuing and expanding all of the depravities of his predecessors, but he’s been doing so openly, making it look exactly as ugly and disgusting as it is. His supporters try to justify this by claiming he’s making brilliant 4-D chess maneuvers against the Deep State, but Trump isn’t playing chess. He isn’t even playing checkers. He’s playing Uno, and he’s playing it with his hand fully exposed on the table, with his only defense being to point at a red card and say “This one’s green” and point at an eight and say “That’s a two. It’s the best two, absolutely terrific two.”

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/06/04/donald-trump-is-the-most-honest-us-president-of-all-time/#
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, whatever you think about Trump, him becoming president was surely a 'good' thing. Like medicine. Unless you're one of those who, as the article ends with, have "no interest in waking up"; sleepyheads.

Same with the eu referendum result, and the consequences thereof.
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