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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RGR wrote:

Peak oilers choose to not understand the oil industry or resource issues prior to making up fanciful scenarios.


Right. Ten years ago, peak oilers were talking about the following "fanciful scenario":

Spikes in oil and food prices.
Economic chaos.
Riots and revolutions.
An end to increases in global oil production.

And, erm, that's what happened.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is entitled 'Peak Uranium' and it's in the Nuclear Power section.

(Just in case you'd forgotten.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RGR wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
RGR wrote:

Peak oilers choose to not understand the oil industry or resource issues prior to making up fanciful scenarios.


Right. Ten years ago, peak oilers were talking about the following "fanciful scenario":

Spikes in oil and food prices.
Economic chaos.
Riots and revolutions.
An end to increases in global oil production.

And, erm, that's what happened.


The end of oil was being called in 1886. By people way more qualified than anyone who posts on this website to do so. 90 years ago peak was being declared in the US and nominal oil prices were doubling and tripling within a year. 55 years ago we were running out of oil. 33 years ago Presidents were declaring we were running out of oil, in the US and globally. Peak oil was declared in 1989 by some crazy Brit who continued to repeat himself for what, the 2 decades after? And then we had peak oil in 2000......in 2005....in 2008...and now in 2010. Whats that old peaker saying...if you don't like the results of the last one, just wait awhile, another will be along soon?

Oil is currently running around the same real price as it was in 1864 during the American Civil War. Economic chaos is defined as those of us in the US stock market doubling our money in the past 2 years. Riot and revolutions for democracy aren't what peak oil was supposed to cause, riots and revolutions fighting over resources was the stated excuse. Remember those shortages and rationing peak oil was supposed to cause? Me neither. How about the starvation? You wouldn't happen to have the starvation stats for the UK or America would you? Such an endemic problem should be trumpeted in every alternative news outlet on the web...except...gee...ain't seen that one either.

Learn some history...next thing you'll be saying is that easy oil didn't run out in 1901...or the 1940's....or that shale gas is a new phenomena, or that cheap oil hadn't disappeared in about 1969....30 years before Colin Campbell thought it hadn't happened yet. Remember what I said about nanometer attention spans and memory? I meant it and can list the reasons why.

When you come up with an idea which doesn't pre-date your birth, and hasn't already happened at least once, feel free to lecture. Until then, I suggest you learn more than the dogma provided by the Prophets of Peak.


Right. Ten years ago, peak oilers were talking about the following "fanciful scenario":

Spikes in oil and food prices.
Economic chaos.
Riots and revolutions.
An end to increases in global oil production.

And, erm, that's what happened.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's interesting to speculate what your ramblings here on this forum are a coping mechanism for. It's obviously some kind of a compulsion, because in spite of the fact that no-one here has any time for what you say, you can't get enough of the place.

Do you feel guilty about something, perhaps?


I have explained my motivation before.
Yes, but I'm looking for the real reason.


And what would lead you to believe that my stated reason isn't the real reason?
Its sheer irrationality, for a start.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RGR wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:

Right. Ten years ago, peak oilers were talking about the following "fanciful scenario":

Spikes in oil and food prices.
Economic chaos.
Riots and revolutions.
An end to increases in global oil production.

And, erm, that's what happened.


Your statement is no different than someone declaring that a result of their hypothesis is that the sun will rise tomorrow. Gee....are you SURE? Predicting the sun will rise tomorrow....going out on a limb there.


Unfortunately, irrationality will never peak, RC.
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