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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Nuclear Niger Reply with quote

Yes, you read that correctly...

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Niger says nuclear plans to involve African peers

NIAMEY (Reuters) - Niger's plans to produce its own nuclear power will be developed in partnership with other African nations, not alone, due to the country's low energy needs, the government said.

Niger, one of the world's poorest countries, is a major exporter of uranium and has oil reserves but currently imports some 70 percent of its energy from neighbouring Nigeria.

"If there is something that we have to do, it is to have our own civilian nuclear reactor," government spokesman Marou Amadou said late on Tuesday.

"The one thing to highlight here is that our energy needs are low so we will only (have a reactor) in the context of a consortium of African states," Amadou said, without giving any details of which other countries might be involved.

Niger's annual electricity consumption in 2007 was just under 590 million kilowatt-hours, according to the latest figures available on the CIA World Factbook.

The West African nation's key partner is French nuclear giant Areva, whose Imouraren mine should turn Niger into the world's No. 2 producer/exporter of uranmium.

The mine will produce 5,000 tonnes of uranium a year from about 2013 or 2014, according to Areva.

However, the country's north, where the uramium deposits mostly are, is plagued with insecurity due to banditry, local rebellions and armed groups linked to al Qaeda.

Niger announced its nuclear plans last year but there are no target dates for the programme to get up and running.

http://af.reuters.com/article/investingNews/idAFJOE7500IW20110601

Does land-locked, drought-prone Niger have the educational system and infrastructure to maintain a nuclear reactor right through its lifetime?

I wonder where they'd site their reactor? Hmm..., let me see...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, no tsunamis I suppose...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lake side? If there's anything left of it by the time the power station gets built. Better not worry too much about the 20 million people whose water comes from the lake.



In fact... Lake Chad isn't even in Niger anymore!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not the lake that "turned upside-down" (CO or Methane burp?) a few years back, is it?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niger has a particularly abundant source of energy - solar. It's distributed widely, just like the population. Incremental increases in capacity can be made to fit the economy, with quick returns on modes investment.

Nuclear is concentrated, needs all the large capital outlay upfront before a the first kilowatt hour is generated and... oh come off it, it will never happen. This is just the wild imaginings of another soon to be failed African leader.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, prestige doesn't have a price, as long as others are paying for it.

If it goes ahead it is likely to be financed by the French government through its nuclear industry companies in return for concessionary rates on the uranium ore. That's the obvious reading of the intent. Being French, they'd want to build by a river, and the river Niger is the obvious one, and only a few hundred miles in each direction to the border.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
Niger has a particularly abundant source of energy - solar. It's distributed widely, just like the population. Incremental increases in capacity can be made to fit the economy, with quick returns on modes investment.

Nuclear is concentrated, needs all the large capital outlay upfront before a the first kilowatt hour is generated and... oh come off it, it will never happen. This is just the wild imaginings of another soon to be failed African leader.


Perhaps they can't see in the dark so they decided to go nuclear instead?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

foodimista wrote:
If it goes ahead it is likely to be financed by the French government through its nuclear industry companies in return for concessionary rates on the uranium ore. That's the obvious reading of the intent. Being French, they'd want to build by a river, and the river Niger is the obvious one, and only a few hundred miles in each direction to the border.


Yes, the French will certainly be wanting to secure their supplies of uranium, but, as with oil, there's a global market place and the marked won't be bucked.

Pinching Nigeria's water is a guarantee for war.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
needs all the large capital outlay upfront before a the first kilowatt hour is generated


Solar needs a higher %age of upfront capital than nuclear.
Nuclear has ongoing fuel costs at least.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RenewableCandy wrote:
That's not the lake that "turned upside-down" (CO or Methane burp?) a few years back, is it?


No, that was Lake Nyos, which is in Cameroon. Killed around 1700 people it seems.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DominicJ wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
needs all the large capital outlay upfront before a the first kilowatt hour is generated


Solar needs a higher %age of upfront capital than nuclear.
Nuclear has ongoing fuel costs at least.


No, what I meant was that solar is modular - you can invest a bit and get a quick return while investing more bit by bit. Nuclear has to be built completely before it starts.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Nuclear Power Reply with quote

Before we start misinforming Nigerians again as is our customary habit, it must be pointed out that the situation in Japan did not arise as a result of failure of safety protocols or even as a consequence of the perceived danger of a nuclear plant itself.It happened rather due to a natural disaster. Nobody could have prevented a tsunami, or could they? Nigerians claim they want round-the-clock power supply yet they foreclose discussions on nuclear energy because of fear, stand-down calls for coal energy because the world is mouthing concerns about the environment, and pooh-pooh attempts to consider solar energy because they claim it is not cost-efficient. Question: where will the power come from then? From nothing?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, own up...who's been misinforming Nigerians again as usual... Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference between a Nigerian from Niger and a Nigerian from Nigeria?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Niger Reply with quote

I believe someone from Niger [nee-zhair] is called a Nigerien [nee-zhair-ee-uhn].
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