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RenewableCandy

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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That last bit is a good point.
Back at Knotweed Central, the question of whether or not to import the bugs is a hot one: these ideas have a habit of backfiring in unexpected and spectacular fashion. _________________ Soyez réaliste. Demandez l’impossible.
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DominicJ

Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 4387 Location: NW UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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will someone go on the capitalism is dieing thread and tell ue that  _________________ I'm a realist, not a hippie |
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emordnilap

Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 9472 Location: way out west
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| the_lyniezian wrote: | | One might ask: if there was a lower density of traffic, and much less cheaply and easily available oil around, but people to pull out any weeds/growth every so often, then how long would the roads last? |
There was a re-showing of a 1968 programme of a man and his family in Tipperary county. He 'mended' the roads. It was a simple but but hard existence, poorly paid for quite hard work; he had a house, a family of four, a garden and a pony and cart to visit town once a week. He and his wife seemed content.
His and his workmates' tools were a few shovels, plus a horse and cart to bring the tar and chips. Extremely low tech but sufficient for the minimal amount of traffic. The roads, what I saw of them in the film, were better than they are today - much smoother and fewer potholes.
Of course, they weren't digging up the roads every two weeks and all vehicles were lighter and slower, which is extremely important. Imagine a line of cats walking across a plastic roof - no problem. One dog would go through the plastic! _________________ The human appears to have no idea what its ideal diet should be; has self-inflicted diet-related diseases; causes extensive environmental destruction through basic food production & creates pathogenic infestations that widely infect its food supply. |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6220 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think they build planned failure into roads. The A484 near me was nicely resurfaced after last winter. A number of white marks were painted on it, saying things like "BT". Several months later, they dug up bits of the new surface to put in the manholes, and filled in around the edges. The filling in is starting to get a bit rough already . I'll be fascinated to see what it's like after this winter! _________________ John
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clv101 Site Admin

Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 6158 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| JohnB wrote: | | ... see what it's like after this winter! |
Which winter? It's a lovely 11C in Bristol today. We've had a total of two, very light frosts so far this winter. _________________ PowerSwitch on Facebook | The Oil Drum | Twitter | Blog |
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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6220 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| clv101 wrote: | | JohnB wrote: | | ... see what it's like after this winter! |
Which winter? It's a lovely 11C in Bristol today. We've had a total of two, very light frosts so far this winter. |
So you're saying that the council knew we wouldn't have proper winters in future, so don't need to make roads capable of surviving them . _________________ John
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RenewableCandy

Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 10688 Location: York
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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"They do say" that the infamous winter of 1947 didn't really kick off 'til the end of January. Not that I'm generally into this doom-mongering, like
A barmy 11 degC here and all. I wish I could go out and work on the Plot but Drs' Orders not to get my gashed hand re-gashed/covered in muck. _________________ Soyez réaliste. Demandez l’impossible.
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SleeperService
Joined: 02 May 2011 Posts: 923 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| RenewableCandy wrote: | "They do say" that the infamous winter of 1947 didn't really kick off 'til the end of January. Not that I'm generally into this doom-mongering, like
A barmy 11 degC here and all. I wish I could go out and work on the Plot but Drs' Orders not to get my gashed hand re-gashed/covered in muck. |
Hope you get well soon RC.
Good advice about keeping it clean. I didn't do that a few years ago and got tetanus despite being covered by the jab still  _________________ On the point of giving up and dropping out.... |
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DominicJ

Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 4387 Location: NW UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Its gone cold up in the hills today.
Buts its been very warm the last couple of weeks. _________________ I'm a realist, not a hippie |
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RenewableCandy

Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 10688 Location: York
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Sleeper I met the Chief Plotter yesterday and he said the same: he even has a little booklet with dates and reminders for Tetanus jabs.
I must admit ever since hearing about Toxo (from cats, mentioned recently on another thread), I've always worn gloves while gardening. Apparently something like 20% of Brits have it in our bodies without knowing, and the moment anyone ceases to be strong enough to fend it off it starts to eat their brain
That would account for a lot, now I come to think of it... _________________ Soyez réaliste. Demandez l’impossible.
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SleeperService
Joined: 02 May 2011 Posts: 923 Location: Nottingham UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| RenewableCandy wrote: | Thanks Sleeper I met the Chief Plotter yesterday and he said the same: he even has a little booklet with dates and reminders for Tetanus jabs.
I must admit ever since hearing about Toxo (from cats, mentioned recently on another thread), I've always worn gloves while gardening. Apparently something like 20% of Brits have it in our bodies without knowing, and the moment anyone ceases to be strong enough to fend it off it starts to eat their brain
That would account for a lot, now I come to think of it... |
Lots of careless gardeners in positions of power? _________________ On the point of giving up and dropping out.... |
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kenneal - lagger Site Admin
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 7057 Location: Newbury, Berkshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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-5.7C outside at the moment and it didn't go above 3.5C yesterday. The Jet Stream blowing from the north explains it. A few hundred miles to the west and we'd probably have snow like last year.
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It is very, very, very serious indeed. This is the big one!" Professor Tim Lang, APPGOPO, 25/03/08. And he was talking about food, not oil or the economy! |
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biffvernon

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JohnB

Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 6220 Location: Beautiful sunny West Wales!
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| biffvernon wrote: | | Is that a picture of a Chinese wheelbarrow? |
Fred Drift strikes again . _________________ John
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kenneal - lagger Site Admin
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 7057 Location: Newbury, Berkshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| biffvernon wrote: | | Is that a picture of a Chinese wheelbarrow? |
Can't you see the wheel and the handle? _________________ BLOG
It is very, very, very serious indeed. This is the big one!" Professor Tim Lang, APPGOPO, 25/03/08. And he was talking about food, not oil or the economy! |
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