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fifthcolumn



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Something disruptive may be happening Reply with quote

A breakaway disruptive new technology to harness a form of energy we've been trying to crack for the last 60 years might be just about to hit break even if results of a simulation in one of the USA's national physics labs pan out.

Stay tuned.

I fully await the choruses of "Oh the horror!" and "We must stop it because industrial civilization has to be stopped!"
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Something disruptive may be happening Reply with quote

fifthcolumn wrote:
A breakaway disruptive new technology to harness a form of energy we've been trying to crack for the last 60 years might be just about to hit break even if results of a simulation in one of the USA's national physics labs pan out.

Stay tuned.

I fully await the choruses of "Oh the horror!" and "We must stop it because industrial civilization has to be stopped!"
Don't be silly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you are talking about high powered lasers and nuclear fusion.

It's been under development for decades. A new simulation would not be news.

A working prototype reactor that generated more energy than it consumed over a sustained period (hours or days) would be news.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RalphW wrote:


A working prototype reactor that generated more energy than it consumed over a sustained period (hours or days) would be news.

This.

Though I reckon theres only a 1% chance it's real which is where the "may" in the title comes from.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance of a link to an article about said revolutionary apparatus so that we can judge for ourselves?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aurora wrote:
Any chance of a link to an article about said revolutionary apparatus so that we can judge for ourselves?


https://share.sandia.gov/news/resources/news_releases/z-fusion-energy-output/
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. Pass the salt.

If they'd said it was not feasible, I'd have thought, "They're on to something."
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
Hmmm. Pass the salt.

If they'd said it was not feasible, I'd have thought, "They're on to something."

I liked this ...
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Potential problems involve controlling instabilities in the liner

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. You lot are incorrigably resistant to any kind of even *inkling* of good news.

If the post was from a private company you'd have written it off as being marketing fluff trying to get funding from the stock market.

In this case it's a post from a government lab. They must be looking for a grant I suppose.

Oh well back to head in the oil sands.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fifthcolumn wrote:
Hmmm. You lot are incorrigably resistant to any kind of even *inkling* of good news.


You're as cynical as anyone, fifth. Cool

fifthcolumn wrote:
In this case it's a post from a government lab.


Owned by Lockheed Martin. They are arse-about-face in the states I suppose.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
fifthcolumn wrote:
Hmmm. You lot are incorrigably resistant to any kind of even *inkling* of good news.


You're as cynical as anyone, fifth. Cool


It was beaten into me. I used to be naive.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am open minded to the possibility that one day fusion could solve many of our energy problems, but until there is a working fusion programme in place I will remain sceptical.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fifthcolumn wrote:
Hmmm. You lot are incorrigably resistant to any kind of even *inkling* of good news.


Not true. I've just spent thirty years hearing rumours about usable fusion technologies being just around the corner, and every previous time it has come to nothing, for one reason or another. I've now reached the point where I don't take them seriously, and I think that is how many other people also feel. I realise that one day one of these rumours may turn out to be the one which actually leads to a usable new technology, but I won't believe it till it actually happens.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UndercoverElephant wrote:
fifthcolumn wrote:
Hmmm. You lot are incorrigably resistant to any kind of even *inkling* of good news.


Not true. I've just spent thirty years hearing rumours about usable fusion technologies being just around the corner, and every previous time it has come to nothing, for one reason or another. I've now reached the point where I don't take them seriously, and I think that is how many other people also feel. I realise that one day one of these rumours may turn out to be the one which actually leads to a usable new technology, but I won't believe it till it actually happens.

+1

Even a number of my PO aware friends seem to think that technology will save the day.

I'll become a believer when it's up and running. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOT fusion will never become a commercially viable energy form.
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