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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several videos on youtube interviewing Stephanie Seneff. A clever cookie, and able to delve into the complex biological functions. We were always led to believe onions are good for you, once you have the sulphate explained, it gives some clue as to why. One extraordinary point she made in Episode 8 was about diseases. Flu has, it appears, a beneficial function (I know those who watched it are aware, but for all those who didn't). the flu virus gets into the muscles and releases sulphates into the blood, apparently because the blood is deficient and needs correcting. So the blood needs sulphates, the flu provides a mechanism. So what people need is nutrition, not vaccinations against the flu. Another example of big Pharma going for the money and little to do with health. Not mentioned (I think) was measles, a childhood disease which is beneficial if caught when young, but the health world knows better and tries to stop anyone getting it. As a result they catch it when older and their system can't deal with it.
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Interesting wb. And is that provably correct, that we 'need' flu - or is it a case of lack of sulphates predisposes us to flu, which just happens to rebalance it?

In other words, does it mean if we had decent sulphate levels, we would be immune to flu? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that if we have decent levels of metabolites then the diseases would be far less likely to take hold. Thinking about the great flu epidemic, the nutrition level was likely to be poorer than it is today, so people were likely to succumb. I believe most of us carry most diseases around most of the time, but they don't take hold if we are well nourished, and that includes getting adequate vitamins and the hangers-on such as flavonoids that are only available in food. Supplements are useful, but expecting them to provide for all needs is rather hopeful.

Many diseases that have vaccines which are claimed to be the reason the diseases have reduced dramatically since the 19th century, probably reduced because of Baseljet and other sewer experts who seperated the drinking water from the excretia, and because of better nutrition. For me this is supported by diseases for which we have no vaccines, but which have reduced at a similar rate, scarlet fever for example.

With my level of expertise I could be wrong about all of this, but not as wrong as many in the health system seem to be, and not as wrong as some politicians who seem to believe much of what comes out of the PR department of large commercial organisations.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was also the claim by Dr Zach Bush that there are no bad bacteria, just a lack of balance. There was one he mentioned which I can't recall the name of, it can be detrimental to us if out of balance but has the ability to consume and make safe radioactive waste. Good news if true, some chance for other life after we've killed ourselves off.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Repeat playing this weekend all videos
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plotter wrote:
There was also the claim by Dr Zach Bush that there are no bad bacteria, just a lack of balance. There was one he mentioned which I can't recall the name of, it can be detrimental to us if out of balance but has the ability to consume and make safe radioactive waste. Good news if true, some chance for other life after we've killed ourselves off.


Certainly thermophilic composting has been shown to deal with radioactive traces in soil - read Joseph Jenkins' The Humanure Handbook. Your local library may have it or may get it for you if you can't spare the money or it is available for download as a pdf.

In the book, he does a kind of meta-analysis of experiments using humanure; his conclusion is that, in addition to fixing radioactive soil, thermophilic composting can even bind heavy metals (one scientist claims it makes them bio-available - biological transmutation or the Kervran effect); it can deal with a percentage of heavily chlorinated chemicals and can even bio-remediate PCBs to a certain extent.

There's always a 'but':

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Then there’s the villain Clopyralid (3,6-dichloropicolinic acid), an herbicide manufactured by Dow AgroSciences that has contaminated vast amounts of commercial compost in the early 21st century.

It is commonly sold under the brand names Transline™, Stinger™, and Confront™. This chemical has the unusual effect of passing through the composting process and leaving residues that are still chemically active. The result is contaminated compost that can kill some of the plants grown in it. Even a compost pile can have a bad day.

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I thought I knew how bad things were with Glyphosate and Monsanto, I was very wrong.


And it gets worse:

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The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has concluded that glyphosate, the active ingredient of the herbicide Roundup, is not an endocrine disruptor.

However, EFSA based its conclusion purely on industry’s own data. It failed to cite a single study from the independent literature, many of which (reviewed here) show that glyphosate has endocrine disrupting properties.


Source
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And people think the EU is "Saving the environment!"
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Nearly half the experts from the European Food Safety Authority have financial conflicts of interest

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After four years of repeated criticism from the European Parliament, why does EFSA’s management keep refusing to close the loopholes in their independence policy?


Likewise, the EFSA approves aspartame, a known carcinogen but a huge moneyspinner. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a bit of good timing. Can you all sign this petition asking the EU countries' leaders to vote against allowing the relicensing of Roundup.

https://actions.sumofus.org/a/2017-eu-glyphosate-license-vote?akid=34562.1605868.c_DGFV&rd=1&source=fwd&t=1
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kenneal - lagger wrote:
Here's a bit of good timing. Can you all sign this petition asking the EU countries' leaders to vote against allowing the relicensing of Roundup.

https://actions.sumofus.org/a/2017-eu-glyphosate-license-vote?akid=34562.1605868.c_DGFV&rd=1&source=fwd&t=1


Just emailed the link to 100 like-minded people.
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France to ban glyphosate weedkiller by 2022

Above article includes a handy translation of a French article. Embarassed

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"The prime minister... has decided that this product will be banned in France by the end of the government's term, as well as others that are similar and which are a public health threat," government spokesman Christophe Castaner told RMC radio.

Castaner said the government would set aside 5.0 billion euros ($6.0 billion) over President Emmanuel Macron's five-year term to support the development of an alternative to glyphosate.


Well, will its replacement be an improvement? History say 'no'.
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But why?

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all peer-reviewed studies were excluded from the EFSA evaluation


Shocked Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But why?

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all peer-reviewed studies were excluded from the EFSA evaluation


Shocked Rolling Eyes


"But why"? Simple, it's an inconvenient truth, and there are brown envelopes available for brown nosers.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soil Association: Failed Promises: The rise and fall of GM cotton in India

Hyped up as being able to increase yields, reduce costs and be able to withstand pests. In reality the inverse is true - declining yields, costs increased threefold and the Red Queen is in full flow. Pests have rapidly evolved.

No wonder they are switching back to organic. But has the damage been done already?
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