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biffvernon



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was an excellent piece, Monbiot got it quite right.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pile of shite from a bee-hater

Let's hope Liz Truss isn't co-opted like every other of the feckers. Some hope.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small piece of good news.

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a decision from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) to phase out these toxic chemicals on wildlife refuges in the Northwest and Hawaii.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
A pile of shite from a bee-hater


What an unbelievable, ignorant arsehole he is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you liked it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Criticial future research on the plight of bees risks being tainted by corporate funding, according to a report from MPs published on Monday. Pollinators play a vital role in fertilising three-quarters of all food crops but have declined due to loss of habitat, disease and pesticide use. New scientific research forms a key part of the governments plan to boost pollinators but will be funded by pesticide manufacturers.


Original article.

And here's a government petition to ban neonicotinoids:

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/67350

Please share it as widely as possible. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then they fight you...

SumOfUs being sued by Bayer

I've donated.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bayer's libel action against FOE Germany dismissed

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Chemical giant Bayer has failed in its attempt to sue Friends of the Earth Germany over its claims that its pesticide Thiacloprid harms bees. Now the pressure is growing for the EU to add the neonicotinoid to the three already banned.


All good stuff. Just need to get these things banned totally, taken completely out of production.

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Last year a group of 29 independent scientists on the Global Taskforce on Systemic Pesticides concluded that the widespread use of neonicotinoid pesticides is affecting earthworms, birds and bees and the quality of water and soils.

They examined over 1,000 peer reviewed papers before reaching this conclusion. They also found that the compounds which neonicotinoids break down into are often as, or more, toxic than the active ingredients.

In another legal action, Bayer and Sygenta are suing the European Commission to lift its temporary ban on the three neonicotinoids.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/17/government-gags-pesticide-advisers-refusal-support-bee-harming-neonicotinoids

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Expert Committee on Pesticides told to postpone publication of minutes after refusing to back farmers request to use banned neonicotinoids on oil seed rape.

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The government has gagged its own pesticide advisers, after they refused to back an application by the National Farmers Union to lift a ban on bee-harming chemicals.

The gag is intended to prevent campaigners lobbying ministers on the issue, according to documents seen by the Guardian.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The National Farmers Union says oil seed rape is becoming impossible to grow


"Impossible". Rolling Eyes It's almost impossible to stop it growing. It's a rather nice looking 'weed'. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rape crop looks in good order around here - and they grow a lot of it round here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
The rape crop looks in good order around here - and they grow a lot of it round here.


It might look aesthetically pleasing for it's symmetry, but the reality is that it's just uniformed dependency of inputs.

NYT, no less....

'Scientists are also discovering that a healthy soil ecosystem may sustain plants naturally, without chemical inputs. The greater the soil diversity, the fewer diseases that emerge in plants, said Eric B. Nelson, who studies soil and disease ecology at Cornell. Insects are also deterred by plants grown in healthy soils, he said.

What can farmers and gardeners do to protect their soils? Practice no-till agriculture for one, Dr. Wall said, which means not plowing every year and allowing dead vegetation to decompose. Backyard gardeners can do the same. Avoiding synthetic chemicals is also important. Adding compost, especially worm compost, can help by making soil ecosystems more robust.'
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/opinion/sunday/the-hidden-world-of-soil-under-our-feet.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Living organisms possess varied systems for protecting themselves but they must be given the right tools for the job.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
Yes. Living organisms possess varied systems for protecting themselves but they must be given the right tools for the job.


The fact is, the organisms will, as life does, evolve and adapt or..protect(?) themselves, the trick for us is, how do we work with that to provide us with wellbeing?

It really is as Stamets says...

"I in particular believe that nature is intelligent, the fact that we lack the language skills to communicate with nature does not impugn the concept that nature is intelligent, it speaks to our inadequacy of our skill-set for communication"[/b]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peaceful_life wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
The rape crop looks in good order around here - and they grow a lot of it round here.


It might look aesthetically pleasing for it's symmetry,



I wasn't meaning the aesthetics! Rather that the plants looked as though they were going to produce a crop despite the alleged fears of the NFU!
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