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Merits of reintroduction of locally extinct wildlife
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Tarrel



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The branch Caroline was standing on broke and she fell to the ground where the wolves tore her to pieces.


Don't you just hate it when that happens?! A new definition of "having a bad day".

No that would be as old as Neanderthals.
A new definition would be butt dialing your boss while having sex with his wife or daughter.


Or both. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarrel wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Tarrel wrote:
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The branch Caroline was standing on broke and she fell to the ground where the wolves tore her to pieces.


Don't you just hate it when that happens?! A new definition of "having a bad day".

No that would be as old as Neanderthals.
A new definition would be butt dialing your boss while having sex with his wife or daughter.


Or both. Shocked


Or all three.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
Tarrel wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Tarrel wrote:
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The branch Caroline was standing on broke and she fell to the ground where the wolves tore her to pieces.


Don't you just hate it when that happens?! A new definition of "having a bad day".

No that would be as old as Neanderthals.
A new definition would be butt dialing your boss while having sex with his wife or daughter.


Or both. Shocked


Or all three.

Now that would be bragging and who would you place the call to?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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..............They carry shotguns and aim them at grouse. They are an alien species that should be removed.


Hunters or grouse? Or both? Smile
The hunters. Smile Grouse are natives. Pheasants are not. They cause a lot of damage, competing too successfully for the same food as thrushes and other native birds.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got some oak saplings growing nicely from French acorns, ready for climate change adaptation.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnily enough, as part of our diversification programme in the woodland, I was thinking of trying Chestnut. It does grow in Northern Scotland, but is by no means a common species (compared to, say, South-East England). However, given our relatively benign coastal climate, the sheltered micro-climate and general climate trends, I thought it might do quite well.

It's a useful species; relatively fast-growing, coppice-able, saleable products and a delicious and nutritious food-crop.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's a useful species; relatively fast-growing, coppice-able, saleable products...


Well worthwhile, but my guess that for a delicious and nutritious food-crop you will need a warmer summer. The Italian and Spanish ones are much better than any I've ever seen in England.

As a construction timber it's as good as oak - durable because of its high tannin content and strong.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've got some oak saplings growing nicely from French acorns, ready for climate change adaptation.


Now, Biff, that's racist. You're growing French acorns but don't like Indian pheasants!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indian pheasants (taking your comment more seriously than its flippant intention deserves) reduce biodiversity and resilience to climate change. French acorns do the opposite.

The ring-necked parakeets are an interesting case.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this on pine martens?

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My second reason for opposing the cull is that there is another way of dealing with grey squirrels, which requires hardly any expense, indeed hardly any human intervention at all. Unlike trapping, shooting or poisoning, it works. It is happening with extreme prejudice in Ireland at the moment.

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There is a scientific term for this method. Pine martens.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I wrote about beavers:

http://lwt-lag.blogspot.co.uk/
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarrel wrote:
Funnily enough, as part of our diversification programme in the woodland, I was thinking of trying Chestnut. It does grow in Northern Scotland, but is by no means a common species (compared to, say, South-East England). However, given our relatively benign coastal climate, the sheltered micro-climate and general climate trends, I thought it might do quite well.

It's a useful species; relatively fast-growing, coppice-able, saleable products and a delicious and nutritious food-crop.


Go for the Chesnuts Tarrel. I grew one in my garden from a very small sapling and it was doing very well for a couple of years until some animal seemed to step on it and break the main trunk/stem - may have been a human animal - one of my sons, but they never owned up Sad I will get another, one of these days as it was a lovely little specimen. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamie Oliver was trying to get people to eat squirrel and chefs to cook it on his show on Channel 4 last night. People seemed to like it which is not surprising.

Saw one running around the ground in my coppice yesterday. I think I'll have to get a live capture trap as it will save time hanging around for the little blighters to turn up to be shot.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grey Squirrel is tasty, a bit like the darker meat you get near the bone of a chicken leg.

A quick trip to the woods with an air rifle can provide a nice meal of squirrel, pigeon and chestnut.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wot, no fava beans, Catweasle? Very Happy

Re: Sweet Chestnut - Native species don't seem to bear much in the way of edible nuts regularly/reliably, so we grafted on a Spanish variety which (supposedly) does... Nothing last autumn, mind, but that was only their third year.



Looks happy enough, though. Smile
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