PowerSwitch Main Page
PowerSwitch
The UK's Peak Oil Discussion Forum & Community
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Conservative government watch
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 17, 18, 19  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    PowerSwitch Forum Index -> Government and Society
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
emordnilap



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 14536
Location: Houǝsʇlʎ' ᴉʇ,s ɹǝɐllʎ uoʇ ʍoɹʇɥ ʇɥǝ ǝɟɟoɹʇ' pou,ʇ ǝʌǝu qoʇɥǝɹ˙

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From that article:

Quote:
Next weeks Queens speech is expected include loosely specified powers to strengthen the role of Ofcom to take action against channels which broadcast extremist content according to a statement released by Downing Street last week.


RT blocked? Al Jazeera? The bar may be set even lower than that - nothing would surprise me.
_________________
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3rdRock
Guest





PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/21/mays-plan-to-censor-tv-programmes-condemned-by-tory-cabinet-colleague

Quote:
A plan by the home secretary to introduce counter-extremism powers to vet British broadcasters programmes before they are transmitted has been attacked in the bluntest terms as a threat to freedom of speech by one of her own Conservative cabinet colleagues, the Guardian has learned.

Sajid Javid wrote to David Cameron to say that, as culture secretary, he was unable to support Theresa Mays proposal to give Ofcom the new powers to take pre-emptive action against programmes that included extremist content, in a letter sent just before the start of the general election campaign.

More from the Indie:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/theresa-may-accused-of-seeking-to-introduce-state-censorship-of-the-media-by-cabinet-colleague-10268697.html


This may not rival the 'Current Oil Price' thread, but the Conservatives may ensure it tries. (Or is that the Conservatives' May? Laughing )

Laughing Theresa horrible looking thing if you will. Part politician, part vampire.
Back to top
emordnilap



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 14536
Location: Houǝsʇlʎ' ᴉʇ,s ɹǝɐllʎ uoʇ ʍoɹʇɥ ʇɥǝ ǝɟɟoɹʇ' pou,ʇ ǝʌǝu qoʇɥǝɹ˙

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rdRock wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
3rdRock wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/21/mays-plan-to-censor-tv-programmes-condemned-by-tory-cabinet-colleague

Quote:
A plan by the home secretary to introduce counter-extremism powers to vet British broadcasters programmes before they are transmitted has been attacked in the bluntest terms as a threat to freedom of speech by one of her own Conservative cabinet colleagues, the Guardian has learned.

Sajid Javid wrote to David Cameron to say that, as culture secretary, he was unable to support Theresa Mays proposal to give Ofcom the new powers to take pre-emptive action against programmes that included extremist content, in a letter sent just before the start of the general election campaign.

More from the Indie:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/theresa-may-accused-of-seeking-to-introduce-state-censorship-of-the-media-by-cabinet-colleague-10268697.html


This may not rival the 'Current Oil Price' thread, but the Conservatives may ensure it tries. (Or is that the Conservatives' May? Laughing )

Laughing Theresa horrible looking thing if you will. Part politician, part vampire.


She's the spitting image of herself.
_________________
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3rdRock
Guest





PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing
Back to top
MrG



Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 613
Location: Home :)

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
From that article:

Quote:
Next weeks Queens speech is expected include loosely specified powers to strengthen the role of Ofcom to take action against channels which broadcast extremist content according to a statement released by Downing Street last week.


RT blocked? Al Jazeera? The bar may be set even lower than that - nothing would surprise me.


Actually this is a point. Isn't it still the case that any laws which are passed have to be given the OK by the queen. Royal Assent. We're still a constitutional monarchy, so technically she still has the power to veto anything. Perhaps we should all be petitioning the queen! Surely any changes they try to make which are a threat to our democracy itself.. well if she was ever going to use that power and draw the line somewhere. Then surely this is the time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3rdRock
Guest





PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrG wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
From that article:

Quote:
Next weeks Queens speech is expected include loosely specified powers to strengthen the role of Ofcom to take action against channels which broadcast extremist content according to a statement released by Downing Street last week.


RT blocked? Al Jazeera? The bar may be set even lower than that - nothing would surprise me.


Actually this is a point. Isn't it still the case that any laws which are passed have to be given the OK by the queen. Royal Assent. We're still a constitutional monarchy, so technically she still has the power to veto anything. Perhaps we should all be petitioning the queen! Surely any changes they try to make which are a threat to our democracy itself.. well if she was ever going to use that power and draw the line somewhere. Then surely this is the time.

Don't hold your breath MrG. She's told what to say and it would be a mistake to believe otherwise.
Back to top
MrG



Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 613
Location: Home :)

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rdRock wrote:
MrG wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
From that article:

Quote:
Next weeks Queens speech is expected include loosely specified powers to strengthen the role of Ofcom to take action against channels which broadcast extremist content according to a statement released by Downing Street last week.


RT blocked? Al Jazeera? The bar may be set even lower than that - nothing would surprise me.


Actually this is a point. Isn't it still the case that any laws which are passed have to be given the OK by the queen. Royal Assent. We're still a constitutional monarchy, so technically she still has the power to veto anything. Perhaps we should all be petitioning the queen! Surely any changes they try to make which are a threat to our democracy itself.. well if she was ever going to use that power and draw the line somewhere. Then surely this is the time.

Don't hold your breath MrG. She's told what to say and it would be a mistake to believe otherwise.


Actually when there was a million people on the streets of London protesting the Iraq war I very naively thought she might step in then. But nothing happened of course.

Edited to add.. apparently this is the last time it was used

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Militia_Bill
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
emordnilap



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 14536
Location: Houǝsʇlʎ' ᴉʇ,s ɹǝɐllʎ uoʇ ʍoɹʇɥ ʇɥǝ ǝɟɟoɹʇ' pou,ʇ ǝʌǝu qoʇɥǝɹ˙

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A monarch? Democracy? Some serious irony going on here. Cool
_________________
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MrG



Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 613
Location: Home :)

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
A monarch? Democracy? Some serious irony going on here. Cool


Oxymoronic in fact - but that is the system we have (well supposedly) that's a constitutional monarchy.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
biffvernon



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 18541
Location: Lincolnshire

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a kleptocracy but they haven't told us.
_________________
http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
3rdRock
Guest





PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catweazle wrote:
It's all rather sinister. My personal alarm bells kept ringing every time Cameron said " Hard Working " - the way he used the words sounded so Orwellian - and I kept getting a mental image of the infamous "Work Will Set You Free" sign over a gate.

Here he goes again:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32894214

Quote:
David Cameron said the 26-bill package was a "programme for working people" that would create full employment and "bring our country together".

I assume the unemployed, the old, the sick and the disabled will continue to get the blame for all of society's ills.

We can also expect to see an increase in Channel 4 and 5 'documentaries' about unruly benefit claimants. The 21st century equivalent of the stocks?
Back to top
emordnilap



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 14536
Location: Houǝsʇlʎ' ᴉʇ,s ɹǝɐllʎ uoʇ ʍoɹʇɥ ʇɥǝ ǝɟɟoɹʇ' pou,ʇ ǝʌǝu qoʇɥǝɹ˙

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
David Cameron said the 26-bill package was a "programme for working people" that would create full employment and "bring our country together".


Remember the rule: the opposite of what he spouts = the truth. Above is a pure example of that rule.
_________________
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
biffvernon



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 18541
Location: Lincolnshire

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rdRock wrote:

I assume the unemployed, the old, the sick and the disabled will continue to get the blame for all of society's ills.
Oh, not 'the old'. We're the 'grey vote', an increasingly large part of the electorate and a sector willing to get out and vote on polling day. Tripple locks on pensions and all sorts of other goodies (so long as we don't slip into 'the sick' category as sick trumps old).
_________________
http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
emordnilap



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Posts: 14536
Location: Houǝsʇlʎ' ᴉʇ,s ɹǝɐllʎ uoʇ ʍoɹʇɥ ʇɥǝ ǝɟɟoɹʇ' pou,ʇ ǝʌǝu qoʇɥǝɹ˙

PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the list will go on...

Quote:
the government is to introduce an investigatory powers bill far more wide-ranging than expected


Quote:
The trade union bill [...] is likely to lead to a significant drop in union income


Source
_________________
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
3rdRock
Guest





PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A salutary tale from Lola Okolosie.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/25/welfare-state-moral-failure-tory-poverty-individial-state

Quote:
Society is buying the Tory message that poverty is all the fault of the individual.

I know first-hand how vital state support can be.
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    PowerSwitch Forum Index -> Government and Society All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, ... 17, 18, 19  Next
Page 2 of 19

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group