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SNP's Mhairi Black attacks housing benefit

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:05 pm    Post subject: SNP's Mhairi Black attacks housing benefit Reply with quote

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/14/mhairi-black-first-commons-speech-snp

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SNP's Mhairi Black attacks housing benefit cuts in first Commons speech

After housing benefit for under-21s abolished in budget, new MP says she is now only 20-year-old whom chancellor is helping with housing.

Very Happy I like this woman! Best maiden speech to date.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody hell
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant.

"We must oppose, not abstain". Hear hear.

Ireland had a referendum recently, to decide whether to lower the qualifying age for standing for president from 35 to 21. Most people voted 'no'. She exemplifies a good reason why they were wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I disagree with the change in the rules on Housing Benefit, I wish politicians more generally would try to make sure that sounds bites are actually true.

Obviously the tax payer is paying for the housing of many people aged 20. All of those in military service abroad, for example.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invalid. They're employees of the state, with free housing as part of their wage. Give some true examples.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ms Black is an employee of the state with housing support in London as part of her wage.

You can have it either one way or the other, but not both ways.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mhairi Black wrote:
So youre not allowed to clap like an ordinary person, but youre allowed to bray like a donkey? I mean, see PMQs, especially the Conservative side, theyve got this weird noise they do. It actually sounds like a drunken mob.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/25/mhairi-black-criticises-westminsters-outdated-traditions-snp
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhemming2 wrote:
Ms Black is an employee of the state with housing support in London as part of her wage.

You can have it either one way or the other, but not both ways.


Wow! So you are actually giving MPs as an example? The very same public servants who are giving themselves a 10% pay rise while all other public sector workers are restricted to below-inflation pay rises?

And you wonder why you are not proving all that popular on this forum?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UndercoverElephant wrote:
And you wonder why you are not proving all that popular on this forum?

You confuse popularity with truthfulness.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You lost popularity in my eyes when you described Yanis Varoufakis as an idiot and a fool. You may not like his politics but there was nothing truthful about your description of him.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biffvernon wrote:
You lost popularity in my eyes when you described Yanis Varoufakis as an idiot and a fool. You may not like his politics but there was nothing truthful about your description of him.

In retrospect the Greeks who have lost Billions as a result of his idiotic approach would be well advised to agree with me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhemming2 wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
You lost popularity in my eyes when you described Yanis Varoufakis as an idiot and a fool. You may not like his politics but there was nothing truthful about your description of him.

In retrospect the Greeks who have lost Billions as a result of his idiotic approach would be well advised to agree with me.


Good to see your position has shuffled from calling the man himself an idiot to now merely saying his approach was idiotic. We're making progress. Keep going. Smile

BTW have you read the Global Minotaur yet? You won't like it. I expect Mhairi Black would.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone who has an idiotic approach can clearly be described as an idiot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And she said she was the only person under 21 in the UK on housing benefit. So military serving abroad is still not a good example. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She isn't on housing benefit. She gets a housing allowance for staying in a hotel or a flat when in London.

Much the same as the military do or other people who have to work away from home at then public expense.
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