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Radnice



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
It just goes to show that in many ways nature still has the upper hand over us. Only by expending massive amounts of energy can we outdo nature and even then we cannot do better than nature for short term expenditure without destroying the earth with nuclear explosions. Our influence over the climate has only taken place by nearly a century of energy expenditure while nature can whip up a storm, which we can do nothing against, in a matter of days.

And welcome Radnice.


Thank you! And yes, your words are very true. After all, we can look at other invasive species - how their increased need for resources destroyed their niche, which led to their own reduction in numbers.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radnice wrote:
oh my...this fire season has been horrible in many places across the globe. It is saddening to see that we haven't been able to come up with a quick solution how to divert them or put down before they reach such a horrific dimension!


The solution is to let the fires burn. There is a huge amount of fuel lying around and sooner or later it will catch fire. As long as humans keep their ignorant fingers out of it, the system will become stable.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble is that people are living in the path of the fires and their properties "have" to be protected. Insurance companies might sue the fire department if they didn't put a token, at least, effort into fighting such a fire. I think that in these large fires the effort goes into the more urban areas and much of the rest does just burn.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A huge fire is burning in the Manchester area, and still spreading despite efforts by many firefighters, including those from neighbouring fire brigades.

Army on standby. Homes evacuated.

A bit nearer home than most such reports.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-44624021
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The military have now been called out to assist with the huge fire at Saddleworth Moor, Manchester.

This is most unusual and suggests a much worse situation than most moorland fires.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard on the radio news that the fire brigade require heavy lift helicopter support to lift crews and pumps to inaccessible places.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not a big fire by Australian standards but the picture with the smoke looking like a mushroom cloud or volcanic eruption was quite impressive. From my limited knowledge moorland is not the natural state for this area but was formed a few thousand years ago by cutting down the original forest during a warmer period and then the resultant farmland turning to moorland during a later colder wetter spell.

What will the moors turn into next is anybody's guess with the predicted warmer drier weather that global warming may bring. I should imagine quite a lot of stored carbon was released as CO2 by this fire.

Probably the biggest indication of the futility of fighting climate change is seeing large fossil fueled carbon spewing helicopters with water buckets attempting to put out fires caused by global warming induced by fossil fueled carbon spewing vehicles. in my mind that's called positive feedback.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't look like there's going to be any significant rain for at least a fortnight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It still hasn't rained. In Lancashire. That's... quite something.

The satellite picture of Britain isn't green any more: it's brown.

I hardly recognise my country. It's worse than 1976.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a small river nearby which drains a lake around 4 kilometres away. It has been bone dry for at least two weeks now, the first time for me in 20 years' living here. Older neighbours have never seen it dry before either.

This is different and a harbinger.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've had our first proper rain in over 2 months today, most of the afternoon and more forecast overnight. Long range forecast still looks dry though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Greece there is a huge forest fire that has claimed 50 lives thus far:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this fire in the USA sounds worse than usual, reports state that tornado type winds are spreading the fires.
2 firefighters have lost their lives, and many properties are destroyed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44990976
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went to Aysgarth Falls last week. They've all but dried up.

Also swam in Cod Beck Reservoir. It was warm. The rocks and 'beach' were kind-of slimey. You could see the tide-marks where the level should be.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wildfires in California have worsened, despite the efforts of thousands of firefighters.
Multiple lives have been lost and hundreds of homes destroyed.

The winds are said to be overturning cars and uprooting trees. Many reports refer to the fires as being the worst in living memory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45000242
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