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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An oil pipeline that is full of oil may corrode from the outside, like any other steel structure.
An oil pipeline that is disused and empty of oil may also corrode from the inside as well.
External corrosion may be partly prevented by protective coatings, and by cathodic protection.

A lot depends on the grade and temperature of the oil. Oil straight from the well tends to be warm, this discourages external corrosion since the warmth drives away damp. Internal corrosion may be accelerated by high temperatures.
"Sour" oil that contains a lot of sulphur is very corrosive, as is oil that contains water, salt water is even worse.

And of course the report may be referring not to the pipes themselves but to related pumping plant.
Disuse accelerates failure since damp and vermin tend to attack engines, instruments, and electrical equipment, especially if cheap, inferior, or poorly maintained in the first place.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NK have just launched another long range missile.
Details from news media of your choice.

I suspect that the patience of other counties may soon run out.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt the USA will shoot first. If and when North Korea is stupid enough to fire an armed missile at any USA target including our allies we will first try to shoot it down in flight and then retaliate with a comprehensive strike that will wipe out the NK military and most of it's people.
I'm sure all the necessary targeting codes are already locked in to every SLBM riding in submarines that constantly patrol within range.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Trump recently threatened retaliation with a naval group, it turned out that the relevant fleet was not even in the area. NK has a massive military which could devastate Seoul in hours, even if it would suffer massive loss of life from us retaliation. Hardened bunkers are notoriously difficult to strike, and the NK leadership would be fully prepared.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
I doubt the USA will shoot first. If and when North Korea is stupid enough to fire an armed missile at any USA target including our allies we will first try to shoot it down in flight and then retaliate with a comprehensive strike that will wipe out the NK military and most of it's people.
I'm sure all the necessary targeting codes are already locked in to every SLBM riding in submarines that constantly patrol within range.


I agree, I suspect that the USA wish to retain the moral high ground, firstly by not firing first, and secondly by avoiding use of nuclear weapons.

If north korea attack the USA or allies with a nuke, I suspect that the response will be a devastating all out response but with conventional weapons only. "Doing a Dresden" is the phrase being used in some circles to describe the response.
And that will be the end of the dear leader.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam2 wrote:
I agree, I suspect that the USA wish to retain the moral high ground, firstly by not firing first, and secondly by avoiding use of nuclear weapons.

Moral high ground is one thing, but I expect there are those in the US who are looking for an excuse to use tactical nuclear weapons in an effort to normalise sub-kiloton nuclear weapons.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, when the actual reason for North Korea's nuclear programme achieves a significant milestone - namely getting Trump to the negotiating table to talk peace - silence on this board. Until now.

A good primer on the day itself:
Adam Garrie: When Kim met Trump: The day the words stood still

Highlighting what was actually agreed on at the Singapore summit both Pepe Escobar and Moon of Alabama stress the same point:

Pepe Escobar: The key word in the Trump-Kim show

Pepe Escobar wrote:
The Singapore joint statement is not a deal; it’s a statement. The absolutely key item is number 3: “Reaffirming the April 27, 2018, Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”

This means that the US and North Korea will work towards denuclearization not only in what concerns the DPRK but the whole Korean Peninsula.


Moon of Alabama: The Real Results for the Trump-Kim Summit: A Freeze for a Freeze

In short, an end to US/South Korean military drills in August would relieve a lot of economic pressure on North Korea as it would not need to have its forces on a high state of alert.
However, as Yves Smith points out, the U.S. had the weaker negotiating hand:

Yves Smith: Notes on North Korea

Yves Smith wrote:
You would think, from the tone of these criticisms, that Trump was travelling to Singapore to negotiate the terms of Pyongyang’s surrender. But these critiques belie the weakness of America’s negotiating position…..America’s position on the Korean Peninsula is under unprecedented strain because North Korea now has a missile that can place a nuclear warhead on a US city.

But that’s not even the biggest challenge the US faces in Asia. China is an economic behemoth that wants to displace the US as the leading strategic power in the region, and maybe even push the US out of Asia altogether.

Does the US have the will and resources to resist these twin pressures? It seems unlikely when you consider the scale of the China challenge (much bigger than the Soviet Union) and the fact that there’s no reason vital to the US national interest to fight China or North Korea. Nor is there a compelling reason for the US to keep its troops in South Korea indefinitely; South Korea can defend itself.

Altogether, this means the US needs a deal with North Korea more than North Korea needs a deal with the US.

It’s not that the US is totally without leverage. But sanctions will always have limits because ultimately China can open and close the border with North Korea as and when it chooses. The other option is to threaten war, but is that realistic when North Korea can retaliate to US strikes with nuclear weapons?


As for the western liberal media - they have been completely dumbfounded by it all. Particularly as the South Koreans are jubilant about it all.

Branko Marcetic: The Singapore Summit through the Looking Glass

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Seeing A Different Summit

You wouldn’t know it from the vast majority of Western news coverage (with some notable exceptions), but South Koreans greeted news of the agreement’s signing with optimism — often cautious optimism, to be sure, but optimism nonetheless. Which isn’t surprising — 81 percent of South Koreans wanted Trump to meet with Kim, though that was not much higher than the 70 percent of Americans who felt the same.

Based on this coverage, you probably wouldn’t have learned that the agreement was backed by the UN secretary general, who urged the international community to support its objectives. You wouldn’t have heard, for example, from the residents of a Chinese city on the North Korean border who expressed quiet hope about the negotiations to come. And you certainly wouldn’t have heard that the summit was considered a great success by South Korea’s extremely popular president, Moon Jae-in.

While Western news columnists stood in nearly lockstep opposition to the deal, Moon was glowing. He wore a smile as he watched the two leaders meet, and later heralded the agreement as “a historic event that has helped break down the last remaining Cold War legacy on earth,” even as he acknowledged it was “just a beginning and there may be many difficulties ahead.”


It should be noted that yesterday's local and by-elections in South Korea were convincingly won by President Moon's party
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"As for the western liberal media - they have been completely dumbfounded by it all." - that's because they all hate Trump so much that the idea that he might have actually done something decent is something they simply can't process.
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