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Solar power from Africa to Europe ?
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BritDownUnder



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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While you occasionally have a country that can deliver surplus power to a power hungry neighbor, such as Canada to the USA, in most cases the logistics and the politics make it unwise or impracticable. A country needs to generate and use the bulk of it's electricity at home with complete control in it's own hands and not being subject to being cut off by an aggressive supplying neighbor.


You are quite right. Quebec only built the James Bay hydro project to supply the US northeast states. There's probably not another market for the power unless they start to make hydrogen for export.

Definitely could be issues for the UK with a North-Sea HVDC connections as the UK will be trying to sell excess non-despatchable low cost wind power to other countries which will have lots of their own at the same time, while the UK will need to buy Iceland's, Norway's or France's expensive despatchable hydro or nuclear power at times of tight supply at home. The only upside is that carbon emissions would probably reduce a lot and the UK would get through less Russian and Qatari Gas.

Probably the most equitable relationship in Europe would be between the UK and Ireland and seems to be the only inter-connector with truly two-way power flow whereas the Brit-Ned and France-UK basically supply the UK at full cable capacity during waking hours. The UK could possibly supply Ireland when winds in the North Sea are high and Ireland could supply the UK when the Atlantic is blowing full fury and the North Sea relatively calm.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
While you occasionally have a country that can deliver surplus power to a power hungry neighbor, such as Canada to the USA, in most cases the logistics and the politics make it unwise or impracticable. A country needs to generate and use the bulk of it's electricity at home with complete control in it's own hands and not being subject to being cut off by an aggressive supplying neighbor.


I am trying to figure out if it is the US or Canada that is the aggressive supplying neighbour referred to here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Potemkin Villager wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
While you occasionally have a country that can deliver surplus power to a power hungry neighbor, such as Canada to the USA, in most cases the logistics and the politics make it unwise or impracticable. A country needs to generate and use the bulk of it's electricity at home with complete control in it's own hands and not being subject to being cut off by an aggressive supplying neighbor.


I am trying to figure out if it is the US or Canada that is the aggressive supplying neighbor referred to here.

I was thinking Russia vs. the Ukraine as an example in contrast to the amicable relations between Canada and the USA.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtsnowedin wrote:
Potemkin Villager wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
While you occasionally have a country that can deliver surplus power to a power hungry neighbor, such as Canada to the USA, in most cases the logistics and the politics make it unwise or impracticable. A country needs to generate and use the bulk of it's electricity at home with complete control in it's own hands and not being subject to being cut off by an aggressive supplying neighbor.


I am trying to figure out if it is the US or Canada that is the aggressive supplying neighbor referred to here.

I was thinking Russia vs. the Ukraine as an example in contrast to the amicable relations between Canada and the USA.
I can't be certain, but you seem to be implying Russia's behaviour to Ukraine is unjustifiably belligerent. It that is what you are doing, then you are either fantastically ignorant or brainwashed. Russia has become belligerent with Ukraine vis a vis energy supply for two entirely legitimate reasons. Firstly, they have persistently reneged on their payments for energy from Russia. Secondly, Ukraine is now governed by a US backed fascist junta.
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