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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Extreme prep ? nuclear bunker. Reply with quote

Some years ago, friends purchased some land that included an abandoned cold war bunker.
Initially this was considered only as an interesting relic of the past and was simply used for storage.

They have now decided to clear it out, clean and repaint, reequip and stock it for use as a shelter in any future emergency.
Much of the original equipment remained in situ, this has largely been removed and donated to a charity for use in restoring other bunkers to original condition.

These bunkers were very basic and had no mains services but were solidly built of re-inforced concrete.
No specific air filtration or other radiation protective measures were installed, but the simple fact of being 15 feet below ground was said to reduce the radiation dose to one five hundredth of that received on the surface.

The original electrical system is in full working order and astonishingly, the original battery is still serviceable.
The generator started first time after a basic service and fresh petrol. It is not however proposed to retain this since no one is very keen on petrol storage in a below ground living space!

I shall be upgrading the original 12 volt electrics and also installing mains electricity. This is unlikely to be available in an emergency, but whilst times are normal a battery charger, a dehumidifier, and mains lighting would be useful.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Presumably the generator is vented. Thus it will be audible in use, giving away the location.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emordnilap wrote:
Presumably the generator is vented. Thus it will be audible in use, giving away the location.


The original generator is not vented, it is a very small portable unit and was intended to be carried up the ladder, or hoisted up with a rope, and used on the surface to charge the battery via a long cable passed up the shaft.

Not very suitable for keeping a low profile, and the risk of petrol storage.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam2 wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
Presumably the generator is vented. Thus it will be audible in use, giving away the location.


The original generator is not vented, it is a very small portable unit and was intended to be carried up the ladder, or hoisted up with a rope, and used on the surface to charge the battery via a long cable passed up the shaft.

Not very suitable for keeping a low profile, and the risk of petrol storage.

There is where a rooftop solar panel system on the house could be used unnoticed as long as the line from the bunker to the fuse panel was buried. At least until some enterprising looter got up on the roof to salvage/steal your panels for his own bunker.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many years ago, 1985 I think, I had the opportunity to tour with my amateur radio club a regional command bunker which was located to the North-East of Lincoln. Being a schoolboy I was more than interested in it and the person conducting the tour mentioned how this bunker would function in the continuance of government after a nuclear attack.

There were a series of bunkers that would report to this main bunker which were manned by members of the (volunteer I think) Royal Observer Corps. Sounds like this bunker is one of them. I believe that these ROC volunteers in the smaller bunkers were meant to 'observe' the nuclear detonations in their vicinity and report back to the main bunker. Possible observations of the 'zombie hordes' movements after the apocalypse would also likely be one of the additional tasks.

I thoroughly recommend a viewing of the British television drama "Threads' to see what kind of bullet we dodged in that era.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is an ex Royal Observer Corp bunker, one of many hundreds now in private hands.
Internal dimensions about 7 feet high, 7 feet wide and about 18 feet long.

Original fit out which was largely remaining consisted of two bunks across the end wall, a fixed or folding table/workbench along the left hand wall, with shelves at high level and shelving behind the door.
Bottom shelf contained the battery, two in more important posts.

A seperat small room or lobby next to the access shaft contained a chemical closet and tools etc.

Jerry cans for petrol and for water stored under the lower bunk, along the right hand wall and in the toilet.

The original lighting consisted of a single 3 watt bulb over the table, that was it ! no light in toilet or shaft.
12 volt fluorescent lighting was a later addition.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This link shows an ROC post that has been restored to largely original condition.
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/79675-Veryan-ROC-Post-Cornwall-March-2013

This is not of course the post under discussion, but they are all very similar* and the photos give a good idea.
Reality was probably a lot more cluttered with extra batteries, water, food, petrol, and so on, and was certainly a lot darker.

*Apart from some that were accidently built as a mirror image of the intended plan.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have one of those ROC posts just down the road from us. I don't think it's in very good condition though. I understand they were all built to a fairly standard design. The main task was to plot fallout patterns I believe.

This may seem a bit paranoid and "out there", but there have been several occasions in the last few months when my thoughts have turned to making preparations for nuclear attack. We are in a fairly good starting position; the two nearest conceivable targets are 25 and 35 miles away respectively. Any others are much further.

Preps envisaged would consist of:
- white painted plywood sheets attached outside of windows to protect interiors from fire due to heat flash and to protect the glass.
- we have identified one room as the "shelter room" which is partly below street level. The house has two-foot thick stone walls.
- we would build an inner refuge in this room, seal the room to airtight and make use of a home-made, filtered bellows-style air pump.
- usual preps of food, plus water for at least a month in the refuge with us.

These preparations are unobtrusive, inexpensive and have no impact on our daily lives, so easy to do for us.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-31143404
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the last few words of the Royal Observer Corps prayer:-

Quote:
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Preserve Thy world from the forces of
Tyranny, Greed and Selfishness

Through Jesus Christ Our Lord

Amen.

I take it that they are fighting against the Kleptocrasy as we read this!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to cheer yourself up by looking at this website.

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Thankfully a Tsarbomba could target Sydney and our fallout would be less than 1 rad per hour whatever that means. Unfortunately having a wooden house my shielding effects would be about as good as a piece of paper.

Tarrel wrote:
This may seem a bit paranoid and "out there", but there have been several occasions in the last few months when my thoughts have turned to making preparations for nuclear attack. We are in a fairly good starting position; the two nearest conceivable targets are 25 and 35 miles away respectively. Any others are much further.

Preps envisaged would consist of:
- white painted plywood sheets attached outside of windows to protect interiors from fire due to heat flash and to protect the glass.
- we have identified one room as the "shelter room" which is partly below street level. The house has two-foot thick stone walls.
- we would build an inner refuge in this room, seal the room to airtight and make use of a home-made, filtered bellows-style air pump.
- usual preps of food, plus water for at least a month in the refuge with us.

These preparations are unobtrusive, inexpensive and have no impact on our daily lives, so easy to do for us.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Electrical upgrades underway.
12 volt battery of 400AH installed.
12 volt fuse box installed with 6 circuits.
1) 6 amp, light in shaft, light over top bunk, light over door.
2)6 amp, light in closet room, lights over bottom bunk, light over table.
3)10 amp, sockets
4) spare for future vent fan
5) 32 amp, input to battery from battery charger
6) 32 amp, Anderson power pole style sockets for radio equipment.

All 12 volt lighting is from LED bulbs with two switch selectable brightness settings.
Twin filament 5/21 watt 12 volt vehicle bulbs stored just in case EMP kills the LED bulbs.

A very basic mains supply has also been installed consisting of a single circuit feeding two twin 13 amp sockets, for a mains light, a dehumidifier, and a battery charger, and occasional use of power tools or cleaning equipment.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Work substantially complete.

Electrical installation completed, though with some of the LED lights replaced with 12 volt fluorescent to give a better light distribution.

Food supplies are intended to last 2 persons at least a month and consist largely of lifeboat rations, dried fruit, and chocolate bars.
Drinking water consists of supermarket bottled water, enough for over a month (120 L)
Basic toilet consisting of a seat over a bucket and sawdust to cover the waste. 24 toilet rolls.

Other suppliers include
100 candles, 24 boxes of matches
36 Cyalume lightsticks
100 alkaline D cells
Assorted small electrical parts including battery holders, wire, torch bulbs etc.
bedding
clothing
hand tools, crowbar, pickaxe.
first aid supplies
gas masks and spare filters
Geiger counters and spare batteries
defensive equipment
2 way radio equipment
Lanterns and flashlights with spare bulbs, signal lamp with spare bulbs.
Some large disposable air/alkaline batteries.
Telescope.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photographs of preppers' food as an art form Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the nuclear bunker + land in the Rochester area?

The bunker here came up for auction last month - unfortunately I didn't get to look at it
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