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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:55 pm    Post subject: It's hurricane time... Reply with quote

Florence now gaining strength quickly and heading straight for eastern seaboard of US, where it is predicted to make landfall as a major hurricane. Two more depressions following it, both predicted to turn into hurricanes in the next 24-48 hours.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/?atlc
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's all hope that they miss the Caribbean this year. Unless running a tax haven contributes to global warming they haven't done much to contribute to the problem but they do seem to reap the harvest of the problem more than most.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://twitter.com/WeatherProf/status/1038033297736192000

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Water is crazy warm off east coast. That’s contributing to a steering ridge 2 to 3 standard deviations above normal! No storm on record near where #Florence is right now has made US landfall. But this one might. A changing climate & changing ocean really do matter to real weather


https://new.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/9e3ezo/no_storm_on_florences_atlantic_track_has_ever_hit/

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No hurricane has ever been on the track in the Atlantic followed by Florence and subsequently made landfall in the US. The reason Florence is now very likely to do so is because abnormally (now normal) warm waters in the mid Atlantic have created a large steering ridge of high pressure 2 to 3 standard deviations above normal. This is pushing the storm west. Essentially it has nowhere else to go. A very interesting development in terms of climate and weather, and not one I've seen discussed before.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gif of the eye of Florence taken from space today. This looks like it is going to be the biggest hurricane ever to hit the east coast of the US.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop.asp?data_folder=loop_of_the_day/goes-16/20180910000000&number_of_images_to_display=400&loop_speed_ms=25
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UndercoverElephant wrote:
gif of the eye of Florence taken from space today. This looks like it is going to be the biggest hurricane ever to hit the east coast of the US.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop.asp?data_folder=loop_of_the_day/goes-16/20180910000000&number_of_images_to_display=400&loop_speed_ms=25
It has to get to a strong cat. 5 to do that.
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The 1935 Labor Day hurricane was the most intense hurricane to make landfall on the country, having struck the Florida Keys with a pressure of 892 mbar. It was one of only four hurricanes to move ashore as a Category 5 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale; the others were Karen in 1962, Camille in 1969, and Andrew in 1992, which had a landfalling pressure of 932 mbar, 900 mbar, and 922 mbar, respectively. Hurricanes Katrina in 2005 and Maria in 2017 are tied as the third most intense hurricanes to strike the country, each with a pressure of 920 mbar.[2]

The 1900 Galveston hurricane was the deadliest hurricane in the history of the United States, killing between 6,000 and 12,000 people. The 1928 Okeechobee hurricane caused at least 2,500 fatalities, and in 2005, Hurricane Katrina killed approximately 1,800 people. In the 1893 season, two hurricanes each caused over 1,000 deaths.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_hurricanes
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“In the name of Jesus, you Hurricane Florence, we speak to you in the name of Jesus, and we command the storm to cease its forward motion and go harmlessly into the Atlantic.

“Go up north away from land and veer off in the name of Jesus. We declare in the name of the lord that you shall go no farther, you shall do no damage in this area.”

“In Jesus’ holy name, be out to sea!” he called out, ending the prayer.


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More hilarity

Such as: the media mogul, who regularly blames the LGBT community and abortion activists for natural disasters and terrorist attacks,
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's pretty safe in saying that. If Florence veers off his prayer has worked and he'll get more disciples but if it doesn't he can blame it on not enough people praying and on those that did not praying hard enough so he gets more disciples either way. At least that's how he probably thinks.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not going to veer anywhere. It's going to smash into the coast of North Carolina at 90 degrees, and then helpfully slow right down for a couple of days. It may not be the biggest, but this storm is going to do a lot of damage in a relatively small area.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:
If Florence veers off his prayer has worked and he'll get more disciples but if it doesn't he can blame it on not enough people praying and on those that did not praying hard enough so he gets more disciples either way.

Yeah, that's usually the way these cults operate.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florence has slowed to just 5mph travel speed with winds over 100mph. The outer bands are now dumping rain on the coast and predictions are for as much as 40 inches near land fall and over a foot stretching over the coastal plain. Once it gets to the mountains (there are several over 6000 feet high) they will wring out even more rain that will run down the coastal rivers in time to pile up on the 24 to 40 inches that fell there. That will be the major problem and cost multiplier. Even here in Vermont it is expected to pass over about next Wednesday and drop an inch or two of rain. We need the rain here and hopefully the winds will mostly have blown out by then. I don't need a repeat of 1938.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beeb's live feed on the progress of hurricane Florence.

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Eight months' worth of rain are expected in three days.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
He's pretty safe in saying that. If Florence veers off his prayer has worked and he'll get more disciples but if it doesn't he can blame it on not enough people praying and on those that did not praying hard enough so he gets more disciples either way. At least that's how he probably thinks.


Seen on an American website

"people in low lying religions should evacuate urgently"

I think that they meant low lying regions, but am amusing typo.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever happens now those people on the US East coast should consider themselves lucky. It could have been a much stronger hurricane.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenneal - lagger wrote:
Whatever happens now those people on the US East coast should consider themselves lucky. It could have been a much stronger hurricane.
Well if your house has eight feet of muddy water in it complete with alligators and water moccasins you might be pressed to see the luck in it.
But I take your point. A cat. five storm would have made matchwood out of much of the housing in the region.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kunstler on Hurricane Florence

James Howard Kunstler wrote:
This time around, all those vinyl and chip-board McHouses along the Atlantic beaches will not be replaced. But farther inland, far from the roaring surf, along all the overflowing estuaries that drain the coastal plain, the damage will be widespread and epic. It may create a whole new social class of de-housed, displaced Sunbelters who will never again have a decent place of their own to live in. Since many are retirees, the event may even lead to a stealth die-off of people who are just too far along to start over.

The lamentation for the northern part of “flyover” America is an old story now. Nobody is surprised anymore by the desolation of de-industrialized places like Youngstown, Ohio, or Gary, Indiana, where American wealth was once minted the hard way by men toiling around blast furnaces. But the southeast states enjoyed a strange interlude of artificial dynamism since the 1950s, which is about three generations, and there is little cultural memory for what the region was like before: an agricultural backwater with few cities of consequence and widespread Third Worldish poverty, barefoot children with hookworm, and scrawny field laborers in ragged straw hats leaning on their hoes in the stifling heat.

The demographic shifts of recent decades turned a lot of it into an endless theme park of All-You-Can-Eat buffets, drive-in beer emporia, hamburger palaces, gated retirement subdivisions, evangelical churches built like giant muffler shops, vast wastelands of free parking, and all the other trappings of the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world. Like many of history’s prankish proceedings, it seemed like a good idea at the time. As survivors slosh around in the plastic debris in the weeks ahead, and the news media spins out its heartwarming vignettes of rescue and heroism, will there be any awareness of what has actually happened: the very sudden end of a whole regional economy that was a tragic blunder from the get-go?

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