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DominicJ

Joined: 18 Nov 2008 Posts: 4387 Location: NW UK
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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In that case, yep, I agree.
I'm curious if there is a legal bar to disconnecting already connected home owners, or extending the home owner portion to the substation, or even further. _________________ I'm a realist, not a hippie |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 4451 Location: London UK
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| DominicJ wrote: | In that case, yep, I agree.
I'm curious if there is a legal bar to disconnecting already connected home owners, or extending the home owner portion to the substation, or even further. |
I believe that they are legally required to continue supply to existing customers, though of course laws can be changed.
Not certain about extending the bit that belongs to the homeowner.
AFAIK, in parts of the USA rural supplies are only to the nearest main road, with the homeowner responsible after that.
This also has the advantage that the customer pays for the losses in the cable, rather than it being a burden on the utility/other customers. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 4451 Location: London UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Another large scale blackout here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15631685
Not confirmed to be cable theft, but it does appear probable. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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adam2 Site Admin

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 4451 Location: London UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Looks as though something is being done.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16738000
I do not think that this will help much. I suspect that a lot of metal theft is by large well organised gangs who can easily purchase or set up a scrap metal firm and produce whatever paperwork is required.
Probably a bit better than doing nothing though. _________________ "Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more" |
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mobbsey

Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 2234 Location: Banbury
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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A few years ago there were thefts of farm tractors and construction equipment around here -- most of it never seen again, but what was found was turning up in places like Turkey.
If, as in the case on a local farm, you can make a large farm tractor disappear without a trace, how exactly are they going to stop metal being loaded into containers and exported directly rather than via the local scrappie? |
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featherstick
Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 1215
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| mobbsey wrote: | A few years ago there were thefts of farm tractors and construction equipment around here -- most of it never seen again, but what was found was turning up in places like Turkey.
If, as in the case on a local farm, you can make a large farm tractor disappear without a trace, how exactly are they going to stop metal being loaded into containers and exported directly rather than via the local scrappie? |
Depends what the profit margin is, Mobbsey. A lot of scrap is worth pennies and getting it ready for sale into the legitimate scrap market can involve burning plastic sheathing off cable in your back garden or breaking up fridges to take the metal out. Not worth sending to Turkey under those circumstances. A big whole working tractor is worth more. _________________ "Tea's a good drink - keeps you going" |
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