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The Good Life: Couple spend just £50 a YEAR on bills

 
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mobbsey



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: The Good Life: Couple spend just £50 a YEAR on bills Reply with quote

Not quite sure if this is survivalist porn or a threat to consumers if the economy goes belly up Wink :

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2360180/The-Good-Life-Couple-spend-just-50-YEAR-bills-collect-rain-water-flush-toilets-grow-food--detached-bungalow-Basingstoke.html

The Good Life: Couple spend just £50 a YEAR on bills, collect rain water to flush toilets and grow their own food... from their detached bungalow in Basingstoke

Daily Mail, 11th July 2013

They spend barely any money on bills and produce their own honey.

It's certainly the Good Life for Yvonne and Steven Lucas, who spend just £4 a month on their electricity and heating bill by living ĎThe Good Lifeí.

Yvonne, 48, and Steven, 53, from Basingstoke, Hampshire, have slashed their energy bills by installing solar panels, growing their own fruit and vegetables and collecting rainwater to flush their toilets.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They own a six acre woodland. That'll be the main reason their fuel bills are so low.

Also, many of their solar panels will have, presumably, been massively subsidised by poorer bill payers who cannot afford even a share of the cost of those panels but are, nevertheless, forced to subsidize (by an extra change on their bills) a share of the panel installations of better off bill payers.

I'm not dismissing anything this couple have done. Good luck to them. What I am sick to the back teeth of, though, and what I will not ******* stand for is the kind of bollocks that states this is something everyone can do and it's all just a matter of choices (and I'm not accusing you of doing that, by the way).

Most people don't have six acres. Most people are forced to live in private rented rabbit hutches because they canít afford to buy a rabbit hutch of their own. Consequently, most people have work every waking hour in some god forsaken, shitty, alienating little job just to keep themselves afloat in order to pay for things like bills, rent other shit like a car to get them to the only job they could get hold of that but that happened to be twenty miles away.


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mobbsey



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As is said, survivalist porn!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they don't get a fat subsidy. AFAIK you only get it fr grid tied installations

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Knitting teacher Yvonne added: 'We donít feed our solar panels into the national grid as we store the energy in a two kilowatt battery system.


Most people who want an allotment have difficulty getting just one.

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Vegetarians Yvonne and Steven use three allotments, two greenhouses and their garden to grow more than 15 fruit trees, a wide variety of vegetables and herbs, flowers and several ponds.


Basingstoke is good area for growing crops. Many areas of the country are nowhere as good. Their travel costs to their Surrey woodland are conveniently left out of their household bills.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, there are plenty of people who won't be able to do this because of the economic system we're currently stuck with. But seeing an article in the Mail (a paper I generally avoid like the plague) showing a happy couple attempting to be more self-sufficient/sustainable without it screaming 'freaks!' at any point has to be - on balance - a welcome development. And even more so if it inspires a few hundred people somewhere to grow veg, keep chickens, install renewables etc. Better than reading vacuous celebrity guff.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, not everyone could do this, but some could.
AFAIK no subsidy is payable for off grid PV. I would not support any such subsidy owing to the many variables.
It might however be reasonable to remove VAT from PV modules so as to offer a slight incentive to install such.

Of course if we had fewer people, than a larger proportion could own woodland or other useful land.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam2 wrote:
AFAIK no subsidy is payable for grid PV.


I thought that there were huge subsidies for grid PV. Don't people get paid a very high price for their PV electricity?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Peter wrote:
adam2 wrote:
AFAIK no subsidy is payable for grid PV.


I thought that there were huge subsidies for grid PV. Don't people get paid a very high price for their PV electricity?


Peter.


Obviously a typo. Off-grid is not subsidised.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Peter wrote:
adam2 wrote:
AFAIK no subsidy is payable for grid PV.

I thought that there were huge subsidies for grid PV. Don't people get paid a very high price for their PV electricity?
Peter.


You are correct.
What I MEANT was OFF grid PV.
But that was not I wrote, simple typo, now corrected to read what I originaly intended.
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